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Posted on 1/23/20 at 4:00 pm to Jack Ruby
Unless Jodorowsky is involved in some way, I won't watch it.
Just kidding I probably will
Just kidding I probably will
Posted on 1/23/20 at 5:46 pm to Jack Ruby
Dude who is directing this directed Prisoners with Hugh Jackman and Jake Gyllenhaal, Sicario, and Blade Runner 2049.
It's probably gonna be the biggest film of the year.
It's probably gonna be the biggest film of the year.
Posted on 2/24/20 at 5:49 pm to Nobelium
quote:perhaps you didn't catch on to the parallelism. it reads almost straight out of christian history (not that herbert was advocating it)
Then the plot went completely off the rails after the first book
Posted on 2/24/20 at 5:51 pm to Bamadiver
quote:no wonder you didn't like it. you didn't understand it at all
only to find out they are almost meaningless
Posted on 2/24/20 at 5:54 pm to minimal
quote:they think he is. but he's not.
The first book in which Paul is nothing less than a savior to the Fremen
Posted on 2/24/20 at 6:04 pm to Jack Ruby
LOTR is already 20? Crap I'm old
Posted on 2/24/20 at 9:40 pm to bfniii
He is. It is Leto who ruins the Fremen.
The Baron in the books was very devious, very deadly, knew when to strike and when to hold fast. He got cock and overlooked the Fremen but this was a man who had a decent plan for putting his nephew on the golden throne.
I hope they include the gladiator scene. It shows the nature of the Harkonnen world and how deadly the Harkonnens really are.
Hopefully they use the book's swordfighting instead of those stupid weirding modules that no one wanted to see.
The Baron in the books was very devious, very deadly, knew when to strike and when to hold fast. He got cock and overlooked the Fremen but this was a man who had a decent plan for putting his nephew on the golden throne.
I hope they include the gladiator scene. It shows the nature of the Harkonnen world and how deadly the Harkonnens really are.
Hopefully they use the book's swordfighting instead of those stupid weirding modules that no one wanted to see.
Posted on 2/24/20 at 11:39 pm to Jack Ruby
Duh. Denis v.
This post was edited on 2/24/20 at 11:40 pm
Posted on 2/25/20 at 4:37 pm to prplhze2000
quote:he's not. he gets asked this question and says he's "something else. a seed." he's the precursor to the "savior."
He is.
quote:i don't know what you mean by "ruins."
t is Leto who ruins the Fremen
quote:not really. even though he underestimated their numbers and strength, he would have eventually worn them down. he just had no idea about the bg breeding program and just how lethal the kh really was. he didn't know how close the bg were to achieving the kh.
overlooked the Fremen
quote:yep. it was excellent, mostly pitre's though
this was a man who had a decent plan for putting his nephew on the golden throne.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:58 pm to bfniii
Leto replaces them w fish speakers. Read the fourth book. Fremen are no longer warriors
This post was edited on 4/13/20 at 7:52 pm
Posted on 2/26/20 at 10:39 am to prplhze2000
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The whole rain crap, weirding module garbage, and portraying the harkonnens as cartoon buffoons ruined the first one.
Look - neither I nor Herbert agreed with every choice (and compromise) made by Lynch, but that film is fantastic. It was fantastic then, it's fantastic now and will be fantastic in the future.
If Lynch could do it all over again, it would be even better.
Having said that, I would want someone like Villenueve to try to make it "again".
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Its filmable
This is subjective, IMHO. A lot of the story is grounded in narration and history. That does not always lend itself to film, particularly a feature film limit of 2 1/2 to 3 hours.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 11:01 am to prplhze2000
quote:why do you say that "ruins" them? they got what they wanted - dune was transformed, all except for the sareer for leto. only the silly museum fremen tried to hang on to the past.
Leto replaces them w fish speakers
quote:i have. multiple times.
Read the fourth book
quote:that's what they wanted. liet, chani, stilgar all talked about that a lot.
Firemen are no longer warriors
Posted on 2/26/20 at 12:50 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:i've been making this point for years. much of the story is advanced through inner dialogue. if you leave that out, you flatten the story and the characters. lynch tried to include it by having the whispered voice over while the character awkwardly stood motionless during the voice over. the scifi series tried a mixture where some was omitted and some was spoken aloud.
This is subjective, IMHO. A lot of the story is grounded in narration and history. That does not always lend itself to film, particularly a feature film limit of 2 1/2 to 3 hours.
it's a real problem and it will be interesting to see which approach denis takes. regardless, it makes dune nearly unfilmable. it has always seemed obvious to me that geod was the most cinema ready story largely because there is less of the inner dialogue that is so crucial to advancing the storyline. dune messiah would probably be 2nd. then maybe chapterhouse
Posted on 2/26/20 at 5:30 pm to bfniii
Leto remarked on how the Freemen were a beautiful people when they were facing adversity from the Harkonnens and the desert. He said they lost it when they became more civilized. Indeed, they no longer rode worms and were nothing like the warriors of old.
The whole point of the Dune novels was to show that humanity needed adversity in order to grow, thrive, and be able to survive all threats. Peace led to stagnation and ultimately death.
The whole point of the Dune novels was to show that humanity needed adversity in order to grow, thrive, and be able to survive all threats. Peace led to stagnation and ultimately death.
Posted on 4/13/20 at 4:41 pm to prplhze2000
LINK
Kinda looks like Pattinson in the Twilight movies but I'm still getting hyped
quote:
This is the first look at Timothée Chalamet as Paul Atreides on his native planet of Caladan from this December’s film version of the novel, directed by Arrival and Blade Runner 2049 filmmaker Denis Villeneuve.
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As the Atreides family leaves the oceanic world of Caladan to take over scorching Arrakis, they are also becoming prey to the brutal rival House Harkonnen, which seeks to exploit the desert world they are about to inherit. House Atreides is just one more part of the landscape to annihilate.
“The immediately appealing thing about Paul was the fact that in a story of such detail and scale and world-building, the protagonist is on an anti-hero’s-journey of sorts,” Chalamet said.
In other words, he’s not dreaming of adventure. He’s resisting it. Afraid of it.
“He thinks he’s going to be sort of a young general studying his father and his leadership of a fighting force before he comes of age, hopefully a decade later, or something like that.” Chalamet said. But fate has a different timetable for him. And he may possess powers even his trainers could not anticipate.
In the shot above, the transport ships descend to take the Atreides leadership to their new destination. At this point, Paul is being taught the ways of war by a veteran soldier named Gurney Halleck, played by Josh Brolin. Paul’s parents, Duke Leto and Lady Jessica Atreides (Oscar Isaac and Rebecca Ferguson), must not only manage the spice mining on Arrakis—but also the politics at play in the broader galaxy.
Kinda looks like Pattinson in the Twilight movies but I'm still getting hyped
Posted on 4/13/20 at 6:52 pm to Jack Ruby
Posted on 4/13/20 at 7:28 pm to Brosef Stalin
Not a fan of Timothy Chalamet.
Posted on 4/13/20 at 7:34 pm to Bham4Tide
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Just like Jared Leto's Joker was supposed to be the end-all of Joker.
Uh I never read the general public saying this
Posted on 4/13/20 at 8:55 pm to Jack Ruby
It will probably look good, although I don't know if Deakins is retiring or busy with something else - I have no idea why he went with Fraser to shoot it (who is good, but is no Deakins).
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