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Deleted scenes that weren't included in LOTR extended editions

Posted on 11/29/11 at 3:20 pm
Posted by Lacour
Member since Nov 2009
32949 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 3:20 pm
There were other scenes that Peter Jackson filmed but did not include in the extended editions including Sauron in physical form and what happened to Gimli and Legolas after the war was over.

I'm wondering why he didn't include these scenes? And I'm also wondering if there's any way to find them.

Here's a clip from one of the featurettes on the ROTK extended edition.

LINK
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 11/29/11 at 3:27 pm to
The deleted scene that is the most bewildering is when they leave the wood elves and are given all those gifts. I was totally confused in the Two Towers movie because I was seeing them use stuff and I had know idea where it was from. The scene was like 3 minutes tops. Why delete that from a 3 hour movie?

And your observation is correct. While there was enormous closure on the Hobbits and gandalf. There was none for those two characters.

I've only seen the extended version of Fellowship, I can say I liked the beginning much better in the extended version.
Posted by Josh Fenderman
Ron Don Volante's PlayPen
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 11/29/11 at 3:27 pm to
Something that's always bothered me about Fellowship is the Horn of Gondor. When Boromir is taking his last stand, one scene the horn is whole, cut to him taking another arrow, then cut back to the horn split in half hanging from his shoulder.

Surely PJ meant for that to happen, but I always wondered if there's a deleted scene where it actually gets cut in half.
Posted by Supravol22
Member since Jan 2011
14424 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 4:06 pm to
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including Sauron in physical form


You mean the Mouth of Sauron?
Posted by Lacour
Member since Nov 2009
32949 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 4:25 pm to
No.

He actually had Sauron in physical form. I saw a brief clip of it on one of the featurettes. He then decided that was going too much against Tolkien and replaced Sauron with a cave troll.

The cave troll that fought Viggo in the final battle. That was originally Sauron.
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 4:27 pm to
quote:

The deleted scene that is the most bewildering is when they leave the wood elves and are given all those gifts. I was totally confused in the Two Towers movie because I was seeing them use stuff and I had know idea where it was from. The scene was like 3 minutes tops. Why delete that from a 3 hour movie?




That's a deleted scene?
Posted by Lacour
Member since Nov 2009
32949 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 4:37 pm to
I found this on the Lord of the Rings wiki page.

Description of every deleted scene that WASN'T in the extended editions. There is mention that Jackson may included these in later releases of the film.

quote:

Additional footage from the Battle of the Last Alliance in the FotR Prologue.

Famous footage of Arwen at Helm's Deep, cut by Jackson during a revision to the film's plot. Foreshadowing this sequence were scenes where Arwen and Elrond visit Galadriel at Lothlórien (seen in The Two Towers teaser trailer). The scene was edited down to a telepathic communication between Elrond and Galadriel.

A line of dialogue during the death of Saruman, in which he reveals that Wormtongue poisoned Théodred, giving further context as to why Wormtongue kills Saruman and Legolas in turn kills Wormtongue.

Further epilogue footage, including that of Legolas and Gimli, as well as Éowyn and Faramir's wedding and Aragorn's death and funeral.

Faramir having a vision of Frodo becoming like Gollum.

Dialogue from the Council of Elrond, such as Gandalf explaining how Sauron forged the One Ring.

An unknown scene displayed in The Two Towers preview of Éomer lowering a spear while riding his horse.

Éowyn defending the refugees in the Glittering Caves from Uruk-hai intruders.

An obscure shot from the trailers of two Elven girls playing about in Rivendell.

A conversation between Elrond and Arwen on a bridge in Rivendell, after Arwen decides to wait for Aragorn. Elrond leaves saying "I cannot protect you anymore."

Sauron fighting Aragorn at the Black Gate. A computer-generated Troll was placed over Sauron due to Jackson feeling the scene was inappropriate. Sauron is also seen in a beautiful form as Annatar, giver of gifts.

Also at the Black Gate sequence, Pippin was seen in the trailer holding a wounded Merry, a scene which takes place after the Battle of the Pelennor Fields upon Pippin discovering Merry under the oliphaunt.

More Arwen footage, including a flashback scene of her first meeting with a beardless Aragorn (seen in the Two Towers teaser).

Aragorn having his armour fitted during the preparations for the Battle of the Black Gate. This was the final scene filmed during principal photography.

An attack by Moria Orcs on Lothlórien. Jackson replaced this with a more suspenseful entrance for the Fellowship.
Posted by Murtagh
Metairie, La
Member since Feb 2008
2044 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 4:57 pm to
they weren't included because 10 years from now when they release the ultimate edition on the newest format, they'll get you to buy it because "we have footage you've never see before."
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 11/29/11 at 5:24 pm to
This is pretty good. I have never seen these.

LINK
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
14843 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 6:00 pm to
quote:

He actually had Sauron in physical form. I saw a brief clip of it on one of the featurettes. He then decided that was going too much against Tolkien and replaced Sauron with a cave troll.


Any video of this on the web? All I keep getting in my searches is the mouth of sauron.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109875 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 6:15 pm to
quote:

including Sauron in physical form


The closest we'll get to seeing this scene is the animated version in the behind the scenes footage. Originally Aragorn was supposed to be fighting Sauron himself at the Black Gate instead of a troll. Jackson however decided not to go with this solely because he felt this would completely betray Tolkein's story. It would have kicked complete arse to see Aragorn and Sauron fighting, but I respect Jackson for not doing it.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109875 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 6:21 pm to
quote:

Famous footage of Arwen at Helm's Deep, cut by Jackson during a revision to the film's plot. Foreshadowing this sequence were scenes where Arwen and Elrond visit Galadriel at Lothlórien (seen in The Two Towers teaser trailer). The scene was edited down to a telepathic communication between Elrond and Galadriel.


I honestly don't know what the hell Jackson was thinking with this scene, but am certainly glad it was cut.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
14843 posts
Posted on 11/29/11 at 6:26 pm to
quote:

A line of dialogue during the death of Saruman, in which he reveals that Wormtongue poisoned Théodred, giving further context as to why Wormtongue kills Saruman and Legolas in turn kills Wormtongue.


Though completely different than the book, I think that scene should have stayed in there. It was pretty cool, and Christopher Lee is just awesome!
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