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re: Clint Eastwood Westerns vs John Wayne Westerns.

Posted on 11/6/21 at 3:27 pm to
Posted by HabaneroBuck
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Posted on 11/6/21 at 3:27 pm to
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I'd go with Eastwood just because his best is slightly better than Wayne's. It's extremely close though. Searchers and Liberty Valance aren't far behind TGTBTU and Josey Wales for me.



I would agree with this. Eastwood did some great ones, but Wayne did lots and lots of very good ones. I guess you could kind of deduct a bit from John Wayne because the Alamo was a very expensive "passion project," and it's not all that watchable. Clint inherently knew how to make a movie.
Posted by GSP
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 11/6/21 at 3:51 pm to
John Wayne movies were a little too corny for me.

The Good, The Bad and The Ugly is a classic.

Even the soundtrack was epic.
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 11/6/21 at 4:03 pm to
I'd go with John Wayne, though I am more likely to sit down and watch an Eastwood western just due to the fact I grew up on those. I got to see the Wayne westerns more when my dad would want to watch them.

I wonder if they'll make more of them... though I seriously doubt an actor or actress will be as synonymous with the genre as Wayne and Eastwood were. I think the closest you get now is either RDJ or Chris Evans being linked to superhero movies.
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 11/6/21 at 4:10 pm to
I love Clint's Western resume, but:

Stagecoach
Fort Apache
She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
The Searchers
Red River
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence
Sons of Katie Elder
McClintock!


Yeah, Wayne churned out a lot of forgettable Westerns, but he had some damned high quality ones as well.
This post was edited on 11/6/21 at 4:32 pm
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
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Posted on 11/6/21 at 4:17 pm to
John Wayne shits on Clint Eastwood
Posted by SEClint
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Posted on 11/6/21 at 6:53 pm to
Eastwood 100%
Posted by Winstonscrabfingers
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 11/6/21 at 8:05 pm to
Eastwood by a country mile and it's not close for me. Never cared for the Duke.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
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Posted on 11/6/21 at 8:36 pm to
I've seen all of Clint's westerns multiple times. John Wayne, maybe once apiece. Maybe it's a generational thing, but I prefer Eastwood by a lot.
Posted by beachdude
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Posted on 11/6/21 at 9:20 pm to
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Eastwood, hands down.


That’ll be the day.
Posted by Yaz 8
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Posted on 11/7/21 at 7:40 am to
Wayne for me.
Posted by HogBalls
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Posted on 11/7/21 at 11:38 am to
John Wayne by a mile. I put Stewart/Ford/Douglas in front of Eastwood
Posted by SEClint
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Posted on 11/7/21 at 11:39 am to
John Wayne can suck my cock
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 11/7/21 at 11:41 am to
Eastwood for sure.
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
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Posted on 11/7/21 at 1:01 pm to
I mean it’s pretty simple, those who grew up with Eastwood choose Eastwood and those who grew up with Wayne choose Wayne. I grew up with Eastwood and I fricking love him. But my dad is a huge Duke fan and so I watched all of his movies growing up too, but I choose Eastwood.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 11/7/21 at 1:24 pm to
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I don't think that John Wayne was a fan of Eastwood westerns.




I think something was brewing in the works until High Plains Drifter. Apparently Duke was appalled and that was it.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 11/7/21 at 1:28 pm to
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Stagecoach
Fort Apache
She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
The Searchers
Red River
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence
Sons of Katie Elder
McClintock!


True Grit (he won an Oscar)
The Shootist
Rio Bravo

I like Clint's movies a lot and even the non-Westerns (and he was clearly stronger than John Wayne outside of the Western genre, is a GOAT candidate filmmaker when you look at his entire body of work). Hell, Josey Wales might be my favorite Western.

On the other hand, The Searchers is widely regarded as one of the best films of all time, period (regardless of genre). Stagecoach is up there as well.

This post was edited on 11/7/21 at 1:29 pm
Posted by DaleGribble
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Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 11/7/21 at 1:57 pm to
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I mean it’s pretty simple, those who grew up with Eastwood choose Eastwood and those who grew up with Wayne choose Wayne. I grew up with Eastwood and I fricking love him.


Not really. I was born in 70 and grew up with Eastwood being the bigger star. As a little kid, John Wayne was making the kind of movies that I think of when I think of the Old West. Eastwood was making Italian films. Good ones but still...not really the kind of Western I wanted to watch as a kid.
Posted by BorrisMart
La
Member since Jul 2020
9021 posts
Posted on 11/7/21 at 3:00 pm to
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They build monuments to John Wayne


Can we say "John Wayne" anymore? I bet those monuments are being torn down as we speak. These crazy fricks these days.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 11/7/21 at 3:58 pm to
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I mean it’s pretty simple, those who grew up with Eastwood choose Eastwood and those who grew up with Wayne choose Wayne.


I grew up with Eastwood but prefer Wayne.

Definitely preferred Eastwood when I was younger but then you get older and watch all the classics of Wayne and the storylines are more attuned to middle age than to twenty-something.

The one movie I did watch a lot of as a kid by Wayne was True Grit because we had it on VHS...and loved it but really at that age Good, Bad and the Ugly was more exciting.
Posted by atomic31
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 11/7/21 at 4:44 pm to
Kind of an unfair comparison because Leone is so much greater than Ford. However, I'm not sure Eastwood ever turned in a performance as good as Wayne's in The Searchers
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