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re: Breaking Bad Season 4 Episode 2
Posted on 7/25/11 at 9:36 pm to TigeRoots
Posted on 7/25/11 at 9:36 pm to TigeRoots
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"Walter you'll never see him (Gus) again'?
I did some thinking about this, and thought this is was an interesting line of dialogue. And then I thought about Mike sitting in that bar, wiping the blood off his jacket sleeve. And I got to thinking....
Is there any way Mike killed Gus? Let's think about it. He witnessed what happened to Victor and realized that he was just as expendable. He's also Gus' right hand man, and probably knows all his contacts and the way he does his business. It might be a long shot, but I could see the writers unleashing a twist like this on us, and turning our conventional way of thinking on its ear.
Entering the season, they built it up that this season would be all about the battle between Walt and Gus. What if that was all a ploy, and the real battle will be Walt vs. Mike? This isn't the first time this has happened, as last year's ultimate showdown was supposed to take place between Walt and the cousins. Just a thought.
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Posted on 7/25/11 at 9:42 pm to FredSecunda
That's a very interesting concept you've got there. Who the hell knows though, Vince Gilligan is a GD genius and that is the only thing i'm 100% sure of.
Posted on 7/26/11 at 8:50 am to FredSecunda
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Is there any way Mike killed Gus? Let's think about it. He witnessed what happened to Victor and realized that he was just as expendable. He's also Gus' right hand man, and probably knows all his contacts and the way he does his business. It might be a long shot, but I could see the writers unleashing a twist like this on us, and turning our conventional way of thinking on its ear.
...and let's not forget Mike's "you'll never see him again" comment. Perhaps Mike's beatdown of Walt was Mike's way of telling Walt "STFU. It's been taken care of." Perhaps he did it because he doesn't like being tailed.
ETA: Let's also remember that Mike now knows how to make hydroflouric acid and dead body gumbo. Maybe that was Gus's blood on his jacket.
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Vince Gilligan is a GD genius and that is the only thing i'm 100% sure of.
Have we seen the last of Eyebrow's car wash, or will Skyler move on to another business plan :benekefabricators:?
This post was edited on 7/26/11 at 9:24 am
Posted on 7/26/11 at 9:07 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
If Gus was dead, wouldn't that make local headlines. Making Victor disappear isn't hard, but a big businessman would be difficult.
Posted on 7/26/11 at 9:12 am to FredSecunda
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Is there any way Mike killed Gus? Let's think about it. He witnessed what happened to Victor and realized that he was just as expendable. He's also Gus' right hand man, and probably knows all his contacts and the way he does his business. It might be a long shot, but I could see the writers unleashing a twist like this on us, and turning our conventional way of thinking on its ear.
Interesting thought. Nothing this show does would surprise me.
Posted on 7/26/11 at 9:13 am to tygeray
late to the party, but nevertheless, that Victor guy was probably one of Gus' favorite guys and having to sacrifice him because of what Walt and Jesse did, shows that Gus (his maniac side) is willing to sacrifice everything in order to save his business, but the killing of that Guy got to him, and now he wants nothing to do with Walt except making his shite, how long that last is probably what Walt is asking his self now!
Posted on 7/26/11 at 9:21 am to tubucoco
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late to the party, but nevertheless, that Victor guy was probably one of Gus' favorite guys and having to sacrifice him because of what Walt and Jesse did, shows that Gus (his maniac side) is willing to sacrifice everything in order to save his business, but the killing of that guy got to him...
I'm sure it did. Victor was a good guy, and I think Gus really liked him and blames Walt and Jesse for forcing him to do something he did not want to do.
Posted on 7/26/11 at 9:22 am to tygeray
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If Gus was dead, wouldn't that make local headlines. Making Victor disappear isn't hard, but a big businessman would be difficult.
Not immediately. I'm sure if Mike whacked him he didn't dump his body in plain sight, but I see your point.
This post was edited on 7/26/11 at 9:31 am
Posted on 7/26/11 at 11:00 am to FredSecunda
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FredSecunda
Good answer. Good answer. I like the way you think. I'm gonna be watching you.
Posted on 7/26/11 at 11:33 am to FredSecunda
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quote:
"Walter you'll never see him (Gus) again'?
I did some thinking about this, and thought this is was an interesting line of dialogue. And then I thought about Mike sitting in that bar, wiping the blood off his jacket sleeve. And I got to thinking....
Is there any way Mike killed Gus?
It would make an interesting twist but somehow I don't think that explains Mike's comment about Walter not seeing Gus again. I just think Gus is disgusted with Walt and Jesse and simply doesn't want to see them again.
I think if Mike was going to knock off Gus, it would be well planned not a spontaneous killing immediately after Victor's gruesome death. But I'm sure Mike is thinking about it. Gus quite possibly blames Mike to some extent for not protecting Gale.
I agree that Mike's comment about Walt not being able to tail very well apparently referred to Walt following Mike to the bar. And I'm pretty sure that it was Mike who was watching Walt in front of Gus' house and called Walt on his cell phone telling him to go home. That would seem unnecessary if Gus was already dead.
BTW, that was pretty stupid of Walt to park in front of Gus' home and think he could just walk right in with a gun which shows that Walt still has a long way to go in terms of understanding the drug world.
Walt would have to know that Gus would be expecting him to do something out of fear after the incidents with Gale and Victor.This post was edited on 7/26/11 at 11:55 am
Posted on 7/26/11 at 11:35 am to jojothetireguy
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Good answer. Good answer. I like the way you think. I'm gonna be watching you.
Good teacher. He really seems to care. About what I have no idea.
Posted on 7/26/11 at 2:47 pm to tubucoco
I'm late too.I just watched it this morning because of family staying with me.Good episode.Y'all have gone over all the plot twists pretty well.As far as Mike kicking the shite out of Walter at the bar I kinda got the feeling that Mike just wants Walter to shut up about acting against Gus so he won't be the next Victor.And the phone call Walt got in front of Gus's house didn't sound like Mike to me.Sounded more like Gus.I guess more will be revealed.
Posted on 7/26/11 at 3:58 pm to FredSecunda
Well if Gus is dead, then the Gommie - Gus showdown can't happen in episode 12
Posted on 7/26/11 at 6:43 pm to tidalmouse
quote:It was Gus all the way, I don't see how people didn't recognize his cryptic voice! he probably was in the blinds watching this silly frick ( lol-sorry Heinz ) with the hat walking down the street towards his house because he was expecting him to do something like that, and stopped him cold! Right now he wants nothing to do with Walt or Jesse, apparently not even see them either! lol
And the phone call Walt got in front of Gus' house didn't sound like Mike to me. Sounded more like Gus. I guess more will be revealed.
Posted on 7/26/11 at 7:25 pm to tygeray
quote:This.
If Gus was dead, wouldn't that make local headlines. Making Victor disappear isn't hard, but a big businessman would be difficult.
The guy owns a chain of restaurants, is active in the community charity wise, his disappearance would be noticed.
Posted on 7/26/11 at 7:51 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
quote:it would have to be made to look like an accident, like a robbery gone bad or else certain questions would be asked. The lab is beneath a dry cleaners that Gus owns right? Could that be Walt's business venture? Hmmm.
Not immediately. I'm sure if Mike whacked him he didn't dump his body in plain sight, but I see your point.
This post was edited on 7/26/11 at 7:52 pm
Posted on 7/26/11 at 8:06 pm to tubucoco
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It was Gus all the way, I don't see how people didn't recognize his cryptic voice!
Vince Gilligan confirmed in an interview that the voice on the phone was that of Tyrus, the guy who replaced Victor.
Posted on 7/26/11 at 8:09 pm to The Dude Abides
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The guy owns a chain of restaurants, is active in the community charity wise, his disappearance would be noticed.
Why does that matter? If Gus disappears and that makes headlines, that doesn't mean Mike can't take over his operation. People will assume foul play, but they'll never know for sure if they don't produce a corpse.
Posted on 7/26/11 at 8:36 pm to FredSecunda
quote:They start investigating his disappearance, other things might turn up.
Why does that matter? If Gus disappears and that makes headlines, that doesn't mean Mike can't take over his operation. People will assume foul play, but they'll never know for sure if they don't produce a corpse.
And see the post about Gus owning the dry cleaners the lab is under, assuming he has no family (does he?) the state would assume Gustavo's assets, right? Including the cleaners. Maybe all of it has already went down, Walt buys the cleaners at auction?
This post was edited on 7/26/11 at 8:37 pm
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