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re: Breaking Bad S5E9 8/11 "Blood Money" Discussion starts page 12
Posted on 8/11/13 at 10:17 pm to finchmeister08
Posted on 8/11/13 at 10:17 pm to finchmeister08
if you would watch the Talking Bad right now, you could find out directly from the horse's mouth, Vince Gilligan just semi stated it. So did Chris Hardwick
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Posted on 8/11/13 at 10:18 pm to finchmeister08
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what exactly is the shows message?
Actions have consequences
Jesse is the upswing to Walt's downfall. If the guy resisting every "bad" thing that has occurred since season two dies, what meaning does the show carry anymore?
Posted on 8/11/13 at 10:18 pm to jmarto1
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What if Skyler had to become the next kingpin?
She would rule the meth game with her bitchiness.
Posted on 8/11/13 at 10:20 pm to Roger Klarvin
well, why must it have a positive meaning?
This show is hardly uplifting, and I would be upset if they copped out like that.
This show is hardly uplifting, and I would be upset if they copped out like that.
Posted on 8/11/13 at 10:21 pm to BobBarker
it's all about chemistry. Every action has a reaction.
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I've come to realize that much of what I teach my students applies not only to what goes on in the classroom, but in life also. It's not as crazy as it sounds. You see, technically, chemistry is the study of matter, but I prefer to see it as the study of change: Electrons change their energy levels. Molecules change their bonds. Elements combine and change into compounds. But that's all of life, right? It's the constant, it's the cycle. It's solution, dissolution. Just over and over and over. It is growth, then decay, then transformation. It's fascinating really.
Posted on 8/11/13 at 10:21 pm to jmarto1
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What if Skyler had to become the next kingpin?
this is an interesting thought. As much as I fricking hate her, Skyler has a lot of the qualities required of a successful kingpin.
Posted on 8/11/13 at 10:23 pm to Matisyeezy
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I don't pretend to be a chemist or a doctor, but in high enough concentrations you'd expect it to be speed up the way it affects the body. Additionally, Walt has proven himself to be highly intelligent -- do you really think he couldn't engineer a way to catalyze the body's reaction to the poison? Like I said, that's not my field, but it doesn't stretch the imagination too far to think something like that could happen.
And hell, he could even ingest the poison in advance and then have his moment.
He could ingest it in advance, but the way Ricin works means that it takes a long time -- no matter how much you ingest. Most of the time a day to even show symptoms. It takes 3 days after symptoms show up to kill you. It stops the body from making proteins and kills your organs one by one.
Posted on 8/11/13 at 10:23 pm to Roger Klarvin
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If the guy resisting every "bad" thing that has occurred since season two dies, what meaning does the show carry anymore?
It shows realism. Often the guys who try to do the right moral things are destined to lose. The guy who takes the amoral route makes it out and has to live with what he has done. The best possible ending is for Walt to win, Jesse dies, Hank dies etc. Walt knows he has cancer so it doesn't matter to him because he knows he won't have to live with what he's done. He goes to the doctor to check the progress of the cancer and finds out it's been eradicated. Walt then has to live with the guilt for the rest of his life.
This post was edited on 8/11/13 at 10:28 pm
Posted on 8/11/13 at 10:23 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
quote:I don't think it would be a cop out for Jesse to have some kind of happy ending.
This show is hardly uplifting, and I would be upset if they copped out like that.
This post was edited on 8/11/13 at 10:24 pm
Posted on 8/11/13 at 10:26 pm to BobBarker
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Sometimes the guys who try to do the right moral things sometimes are destined to lose. The guy who takes the amoral route makes it out and has to live with what he has done.
this, though I would change "sometimes" to "often" in the first part, and "has to live with what he has done" to "never gives a thought to the carnage in his wake" in the second part.
Posted on 8/11/13 at 10:29 pm to MI LSU
According to Vince, we have to worry about the moving parts involved with Lydia and the Czechs 
Posted on 8/11/13 at 10:30 pm to gaetti15
He also said to pay attention to the ricin to be in play sooner than later
Posted on 8/11/13 at 10:30 pm to gaetti15
quote:I feel like she possess a bigger threat than Todd & outlaw uncles crew.
moving parts involved with Lydia and the Czechs
Posted on 8/11/13 at 10:31 pm to MI LSU
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this, though I would change "sometimes" to "often" in the first part, and "has to live with what he has done" to "never gives a thought to the carnage in his wake" in the second part.
I think the reason Walt has been able to be so remorseless is because he thinks he only has an intermediate amount of time left and will do whatever to leave his daughter and son better off. Without knowing he's going to die, I think that'll change his outlook a good bit.
Posted on 8/11/13 at 10:32 pm to BobBarker
Really?
I just want the scene where Walt shaves his head and beard before the final showdown. Just him putting on the porkpie hat and walking towards the door will be enough for me.
I just want the scene where Walt shaves his head and beard before the final showdown. Just him putting on the porkpie hat and walking towards the door will be enough for me.
Posted on 8/11/13 at 10:34 pm to gaetti15
Anywhere to watch this online?
Posted on 8/11/13 at 10:35 pm to BobBarker
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I think the reason Walt has been able to be so remorseless is because he thinks he only has an intermediate amount of time left and will do whatever to leave his daughter and son better off
Walt turned into a power hungry freak who wants a legacy. He cares more about that than his family.
This post was edited on 8/11/13 at 10:48 pm
Posted on 8/11/13 at 10:35 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
Well it's interesting that they bring the concept of the Czechs in this late into the show. It's going to be a crazy 7 more episodes if they are going to introduce a brand spanking new antagonist.
Posted on 8/11/13 at 10:36 pm to BobBarker
quote:I'd have to disagree with this. The Walt that was purely invested in making sure his family was left with a nice nest egg once he was dead is long gone.
I think the reason Walt has been able to be so remorseless is because he thinks he only has an intermediate amount of time left and will do whatever to leave his daughter and son better off. Without knowing he's going to die, I think that'll change his outlook a good bit.
Remember this is a guy who looks at how much Grey Matter is worth everyday of his life. I'd say since S4 he's been building an empire and focusing on his own legacy.
This post was edited on 8/11/13 at 10:37 pm
Posted on 8/11/13 at 10:36 pm to ike221
Getting to watch it now!!
I couldn't keep from reading the thread though lol. I'll dl it an watch it like 20x this week.
I couldn't keep from reading the thread though lol. I'll dl it an watch it like 20x this week.
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