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re: Breaking Bad S5E14 9/15 "Ozymandias"

Posted on 9/16/13 at 10:40 am to
Posted by Nonetheless
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 10:40 am to
Great recap.
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 10:53 am to
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nope.

jesse couldn't forgive him already because of brock (no change of mind on torching the house..hank just arrived before he lit the match) and now that he knows about jane, he will kill walt with his own hands if ever given the opportunity.




I think Walt will realize the shite he's brought down on Jess over the last two years and have a change of heart.


I think walt redeems himself in the end.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 10:54 am to
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the cancer will kill him before he becomes Gus.

Walt's time is ticking.



Walt's cancer doesn't kill him. He has hair in the flash forward and makes it to his next birthday, which he wouldn't without chemo.

Also, no way Walt can become Gus. The recordings of his convo with Skyler all but ensure that he's been outed. Fring was a fast food chain owner, not a drug kingpin.
Posted by GeauxAggie972
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 10:58 am to
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Grantland's recap was awesome btw:


I have read everyone of his Breaking Bad recaps. Easily the best writer of these reviews
Posted by tubucoco
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 11:00 am to
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Fring was a fast food chain owner, not a drug king pin.
This post was edited on 9/16/13 at 11:01 am
Posted by hiltacular
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 11:00 am to
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Walt's cancer doesn't kill him. He has hair in the flash forward and makes it to his next birthday, which he wouldn't without chemo.


Well then I guess we have been watching the show under the false pretense that his cancer is back.
Posted by craigbiggio
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 11:01 am to
Yeah, I think in Walt's twisted head he will see him and Jesse as even. Walt let Jane die, Hank died because of Jesse's actions...
Posted by EarthwormJim
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 11:01 am to
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Well then I guess we have been watching the show under the false pretense that his cancer is back


His cancer is back. The other poster is assuming he beats cancer again because of the flash forward at the beginning of season 5.
Posted by TigersRuleTheEarth
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 11:01 am to
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Walt's final phone call was a masterful, ugly piece of work. There was an aspect to it that felt as if Gilligan and Walley-Beckett were performing the opposite of fan service. To hear Walt assail Skyler for all her shortcomings — her lack of appreciation, her meddling, her disdain, her disobedience — was fan shaming of the highest order. Walt was giving voice to those who've bombarded Skyler — and the remarkably poised actress who played the hell out of her, especially last night — for being the buzzkill in Walt's wacky misadventures. And it was terrible to hear. But this chillingly precise bit of writing functioned on multiple levels, and making Redditors feel bad was only the lesser of the three.


fricking spot on.

Some people have been cheering for Walt as if he was the hero, yet he is the villin. He has lost all redeeming qualities, yet the messageboards have been talking about Skylar like she is the devil incarnate. That phone conversation last night had to make a few people look into themselves and hate what they saw.

Skylar has been the protector of her family all along while Walter has been the threat.
This post was edited on 9/16/13 at 11:04 am
Posted by hiltacular
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 11:04 am to
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His cancer is back. The other poster is assuming he beats cancer again because of the flash forward at the beginning of season 5.


how does he beat it without chemo? Him magically beating cancer without chemo is a pretty big stretch... I don't think the writers would take that big a leap when it really doesn't serve a purpose at this point. Everyone is waiting for him to die, either by cancer or guns n glory.
This post was edited on 9/16/13 at 11:09 am
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 11:04 am to
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His cancer is back. The other poster is assuming he beats cancer again because of the flash forward at the beginning of season 5.



I think he has been lying about his cancer coming back. It is my crackpot theory
Posted by craigbiggio
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 11:05 am to
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how does he beat it without chemo?


He radiates himself
Posted by hiltacular
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 11:05 am to
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I think he has been lying about his cancer coming back. It is my crackpot theory


I think this would be a slap in the face to everyone watching and would be pretty pissed if they ended the show with this revelation.
This post was edited on 9/16/13 at 11:06 am
Posted by ZZTIGERS
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 11:06 am to
Haven't read through the entire thread, but what are the theories about who wrote Heisenberg in Walt's house?
Posted by TigersRuleTheEarth
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 11:06 am to
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I think he has been lying about his cancer coming back. It is my crackpot theory


I agree. Every time he has said his cancer was back, it was to coax some sympathy out of another character.

I think Walter is fine. The only thing that makes me think he isn't lying is the time he started coughing on the rocks in the previous episode.
Posted by EarthwormJim
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 11:06 am to
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how does he beat it without chemo? Him magically beating cancer without chemo is a pretty big stretch... I don't the writers would do that especially when it really doesn't serve a purpose at this point.


I don't know that he does beat it. The first time he beat it was pretty miraculous though as well. He could be getting chemo under his new identity or it could be that he has refused chemo and his hair grew back, resigned to his fate.

Posted by hiltacular
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 11:07 am to
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Haven't read through the entire thread, but what are the theories about who wrote Heisenberg in Walt's house?


vandals is the most realistic theory. Obviously you could speculate that is was anyone.
This post was edited on 9/16/13 at 11:08 am
Posted by TigersRuleTheEarth
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 11:07 am to
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Haven't read through the entire thread, but what are the theories about who wrote Heisenberg in Walt's house?


A lot of people think it was Junior.
Posted by TigersRuleTheEarth
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 11:08 am to
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he has refused chemo and his hair grew back, resigned to his fate.


Hey! I'm adopting this theory.

This is the most probable with everything we know so far.
Posted by EA6B
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 11:09 am to
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believe Walt goes to NH to start his new life and somehow sees or finds out the blue meth is back in circulation and realizes Jesse isn't dead...goes back to the rescue...


"Objects in this mirror are closer than they appear!"
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