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re: Breaking Bad Plothole
Posted on 4/5/15 at 3:49 pm to KorrBG20
Posted on 4/5/15 at 3:49 pm to KorrBG20
It's a valid criticism for a show that was extremely careful with every word of dialogue.
I chalk it up to Gus's ego and his underestimation of Walt, but like you, I also feel it would have made more sense if there was a larger disparity between Gale's meth and Heisenberg's.
I chalk it up to Gus's ego and his underestimation of Walt, but like you, I also feel it would have made more sense if there was a larger disparity between Gale's meth and Heisenberg's.
This post was edited on 4/5/15 at 3:50 pm
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Posted on 4/5/15 at 4:20 pm to dr smartass phd
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No, as Walt said "it's a little tweak of chemistry" that made it blue. Only Jesse and Walt knew how.
Walt said it was a side affect of the pre-cursor, Jesse had no clue, he was chemistry drop out.
This was certainly no plot hole, just some minor inconsistencies with continuity aspect of the show.
This post was edited on 4/5/15 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 4/5/15 at 4:25 pm to OMLandshark
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No way in hell would he have told Hank that Gale wasn't Heisenberg if he didn't want to continue this game.
I think it was less him wanting to play a cat and mouse game on a subconscious level and more just his pride not being able to stand the thought of someone else getting the credit for Heisenburg.
Pride again kills.
Posted on 4/17/15 at 2:38 pm to Volvagia
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more just his pride not being able to stand the thought of someone else getting the credit for Heisenburg.
correct remember he told Hank the chemistry in Gales notes was simplistic stuff, not "genius" level and he clearly wanted to be the guy when the game was up to be identified as the "genius".
One of the plot holes in this show that nobody else seems to have figured out is that in this day and age, laundering money is a good bit more complicated than the schemes Saul was using and Skylar as well. At least laundering that much money would be.
Posted on 4/17/15 at 2:45 pm to KorrBG20
OP mentions a plothole in the storyline, but The Wire is quickly brought into the mix.
Posted on 4/17/15 at 3:07 pm to KorrBG20
Was there a scene that showed Walt putting his wallet back in his pocket after Tuco went through it in his house? I always thought it was sitting on the table when him and Jesse escaped and they never resolved it, but maybe I'm wrong.
This post was edited on 4/17/15 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:13 pm to KorrBG20
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So, The show stretches my belief that Gus, this extremely careful business man who literally took years to find, vette, and groom Gale (and we know this because Gus created that chemistry scholarship program) would just suddenly hire a guy "he doesn't consider a professional" to do the most crucial part of the entire multi-million dollar meth empire for the blue color and an extra 3% purity. I think it's a pretty valid criticism.
Here's a valid criticism:
Why wouldn't Jesse have been able to cook at the exact same level WW was cooking at? It's just a process; the idea that WW had some magic touch to get to the 99% is ridiculous.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 11:17 pm to SystemsGo
Yep.
And the idea that that nobody else around can cook great meth is nuts to me. We aren't talking about some job that pays 80k a year. This is an industry that makes millions and millions of dollars. And Walter White is the only guy who had the precision to take the time and effort to do the process correct? Ok
3 people in the story can get above 90%. And one of them is a HIGHLY troubled frickup. Right.
And the idea that that nobody else around can cook great meth is nuts to me. We aren't talking about some job that pays 80k a year. This is an industry that makes millions and millions of dollars. And Walter White is the only guy who had the precision to take the time and effort to do the process correct? Ok
3 people in the story can get above 90%. And one of them is a HIGHLY troubled frickup. Right.
This post was edited on 7/6/15 at 11:19 pm
Posted on 7/7/15 at 12:53 am to ReauxlTide222
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Yep.
And the idea that that nobody else around can cook great meth is nuts to me. We aren't talking about some job that pays 80k a year. This is an industry that makes millions and millions of dollars. And Walter White is the only guy who had the precision to take the time and effort to do the process correct? Ok
3 people in the story can get above 90%. And one of them is a HIGHLY troubled frickup. Right.
Yeah, how do people talk about tiny inconsistencies in BB and how they bother them while overlooking this? I mean, the idea that Walt and Jesse together in the lab, or Walt alone in the lab, would result in 99.1% but that Jesse alone would produce 96.x% is ABSURD, and it's also central to much of the plot of the 4th and 5th seasons.
Posted on 7/7/15 at 7:50 am to SystemsGo
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Here's a valid criticism:
Why wouldn't Jesse have been able to cook at the exact same level WW was cooking at? It's just a process; the idea that WW had some magic touch to get to the 99% is ridiculous.
The same reason a seasoned attending surgeon performs a surgery better than a resident. Was this serious, or did I just miss your sarcasm?
Posted on 7/7/15 at 7:51 am to ReauxlTide222
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3 people in the story can get above 90%. And one of them is a HIGHLY troubled frickup. Right.
It's not like Jesse figured out how to do it on his own.
Posted on 7/7/15 at 8:00 am to KorrBG20
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So Gus was willing to risk everything just for an extra 3% purity and the blue color for the meth??
I thought that was very much the point of the flashback (aside from setting up the boxcutter and tragically re-emphasizing Gale's obsequiousness). Gus was right in the first place to turn down Walt and stick with the more reliable Gale, who was turning out product of a sufficient purity. He let greed/fastidiousness get the better of him, reconsidered Walt, and the rest is history.
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Was there a scene that showed Walt putting his wallet back in his pocket after Tuco went through it in his house? I always thought it was sitting on the table when him and Jesse escaped and they never resolved it, but maybe I'm wrong.
Walt and Jesse are briefly shown recollecting their things.
This post was edited on 7/7/15 at 8:03 am
Posted on 7/7/15 at 8:18 am to Volvagia
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Pride again kills.
Walt was the worst kind of narcissist. His malady evolved from a combination of entitlement derived from intellectual elitism, a finely tuned persecution complex and a crippling case of self hatred.
Even if he had never stumbled onto the meth business it was never going to end well for Walt. Too much was stirring up inside him from the beginning.
This post was edited on 7/7/15 at 8:21 am
Posted on 7/7/15 at 9:39 am to TotesMcGotes
quote:He did. That basically drove the show...Walt adjusting/correcting/covering up one mistake after another. It's one thing to be a brilliant cook and another to fulfill an active role in a seedy business full of dangerous people.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Walt made plenty of small mistakes throughout the show.
Posted on 7/7/15 at 9:42 am to Jay Quest
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Walt was the worst kind of narcissist. His malady evolved from a combination of entitlement derived from intellectual elitism, a finely tuned persecution complex and a crippling case of self hatred.
Walt vs Tony Soprano is probably the ultimate case of self destructive psyche. Both had moments of pure genius only to be let down by ego and giving into animalistic tendency. Main difference is Walt didn't really care about getting laid.
Posted on 7/7/15 at 9:43 am to Jay Quest
quote:Absolutely. He was trapped in the humdrum husk of a life that he created for himself and was finally set free by lung cancer.
Even if he had never stumbled onto the meth business it was never going to end well for Walt. Too much was stirring up inside him from the beginning.
Posted on 7/7/15 at 9:53 am to KorrBG20
Answer to the plothole - Gus' intent was to train Gale and kill Walter from day one. Walter figured that out pretty quickly and got Jesse to kill Gale and pulled his weight to make them both less expendable. That's why Jesse's 91-95% suddenly became more valuable. It was Gus' only play that the time. And if you recall, the Mexican play was to get back at Walter.
Walter was the one putting everything on the line for Jesse because he viewed him as the "non-contaminated" son he always wanted (this reinforces Walter's character flaw for perfection and subtly reveals how he truly felt about Jr.)
Walter was the one putting everything on the line for Jesse because he viewed him as the "non-contaminated" son he always wanted (this reinforces Walter's character flaw for perfection and subtly reveals how he truly felt about Jr.)
This post was edited on 7/7/15 at 9:54 am
Posted on 7/7/15 at 10:05 am to theunknownknight
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Walter was the one putting everything on the line for Jesse because he viewed him as the "non-contaminated" son he always wanted (this reinforces Walter's character flaw for perfection and subtly reveals how he truly felt about Jr.)
You don't think the meth addiction and severe self destructive behavior of Jesse makes this BS?
I guess Walt's entire character had a ton of contradictions so in essence it makes that theory legit.
Posted on 7/7/15 at 10:19 am to STLhog
By "non-contaminated" I mean Walter hated the fact that Jr. had cerebral palsy.
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