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Posted on 7/29/21 at 10:14 am to
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 10:14 am to
I don't think he'd realize any of that.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 10:21 am to
Me neither. It's like its built into his genetic code.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:06 pm to
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Dude deserves no sympathy, and his edit captured pretty well the house consensus on him.


Yeah. At one point I thought Frenchie was Brent's downfall. Turns out Brent is Brent's downfall.

Posted by Lickitty Split
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 1:48 pm to
Why is it alright to have a straight racist group meant to get rid of all the white people?
Posted by Bottom9
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 3:17 pm to
What if 3 of the white people included a northeastern douche white boy douche who is possibly a racist as most northeasterns are in my experience, a southern woke white boy who also hates hate people, and one legit good bro who was set up for eviction by a the earlier mentioned woke white boy?
Posted by jefforize
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 7:56 pm to
CBS is truly awful
Posted by JDPndahizzy
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 8:19 pm to
Who’s he gonna put up?
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 8:47 pm to
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Why is it alright to have a straight racist group meant to get rid of all the white people?



Did you also think it was racist when Jackson, Jack, Holly, and Analyse sent minorities home the first three weeks straight, or did you defend it as game play?


On premiere night, when Christian picked Alyssa I said it was a stupid move because it made them a target.

Several people chimed in defending him saying things to the effect of “oh it’s just natural and human nature to feel more comfortable and pair up with people who look like you”.


Ok, why is it so offensive, then, for the members of the cookout to do the same thing?

That entire group formed through a 2-3 minute passing conversation in the kitchen with the whole house just a few feet away in the living room.

Tiffany was washing dishes while DF and Ky were eating and as Xavier walked by Tiff just casually said, “and this doesn’t even need to be said but we got each other, we just can’t do this (gesturing to them all meeting together)” and all of them nodding and Xavier saying “Cookout” as he walked away.

That’s it. Couldn’t have been more natural.


They didn’t all sit around plotting saying let’s take down all the white people, like so many stupid all girls alliances have tried to do against the guys almost every year. They simply found an obvious connection, and said let’s be aware of each other and look out for each other, and they’ve done an excellent job of doing so.


I think it was a simple strategy that made perfect sense for them to do, and the way the teams were broken up only added to the effectiveness of it.

And of course Frenchie’s two week suicide made it easier than they probably ever imagined it could have been.


Anyone offended by this is looking for any way to be offended and is probably just as obsessed with race as they are claiming the cookout to be.
This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 8:52 pm
Posted by Lugnut
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:28 pm to
Any alliance based on something as shallow as the color of a person’s skin is doomed to fail in my opinion. And that goes for any color. A successful alliance has to be based on similar thought and game play.
Posted by lionward2014
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 10:09 pm to
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Any alliance based on something as shallow as the color of a person’s skin is doomed to fail in my opinion. And that goes for any color. A successful alliance has to be based on similar thought and game play


Which is why the Cookout is going to fail in nut cutting time. Ky and Tiff are very strong players, and care about themselves first and foremost (as they should). It may be 2-3 weeks away, but the implosion is coming soon. There are already fissures with Dereck F and Azah causing the other members to get angry. Tiffany and Hannah seem much more loyal to Claire and Derex, whereas Ky is super loyal with SB.

The whole 3 white men being evicted first is a coincidence more than a race thing. Only one that maybe was racially motivated was Travis and that was solely the idea of another white male.
Posted by Lugnut
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 10:36 pm to
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This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 11:06 pm
Posted by Bottom9
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:08 pm to
Hoping Christian puts up Azah up. I think she would not have a fun time on the block.


Also I can not stop cringing at even the thought of Britini. fricking yikes
This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 11:12 pm
Posted by lionward2014
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:27 pm to
One of Azah or Deref being in the block with Whitney being the wildcard is ultimate entertainment this week.
Posted by BallSoHard
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:33 pm to
Yeah you are way off. That being said. I have never missed an episode of Big Brother the whole time is has been aired. But i am tapping out, i cant support a show based off skill where someone is evicted due to race. white, black or etc. The best player should win. Hate this, cause it was a great show.
Posted by Bottom9
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:46 pm to
So you, a white man, are tapping out because a woke white piece of shite is responsible for the eviction of 2 white men (himself and an actually cool white dude)



Imagine not watching a show because you are upset that one of the evicted people is a white dude from the south that hates white people and hates being white got evicted.



What a pussy. BTW 4 of the black people are playing dann good games (Tiffany, Kyland, Hannah, and Xavier)

Tiffany has also told others that she doesn't like woke shite and likes people regardless of their color

Good troll or absolutely fricking snowflake you are. If it is the latter, you are no better than the people you claim to be against.

-Brown Conservative here

Again imagine being a white person with Conservative values and beliefs and being upset that white people like frenchie who stands against everything you stand for get voted out.

Yikes.
This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 11:51 pm
Posted by UnoMe
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Posted on 7/30/21 at 12:15 am to
Name the people that’s upset Frenchie was voted out?

He was terrible white, black green or yellow. You can have him

Posted by LSUBCILUVTHEM
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Posted on 7/30/21 at 6:42 am to
No one is upset about Frenchie leaving. However the Cookout strategy is based solely on POC, specifically black. That has never ever been anyone's strategy, except in that last Celebrity BB?. Wondering what effect this will have on this season and future seasons?

I do think the strongest players overall are: Ky, Tiffany, Sara Beth, Claire and Xavier. I worry about how this will harm Xavier, Ky and Tiffany's game. Also my fan fav is Derek X, even though he is a newbie. He is very likable, smart and learns quickly. I always love the underdogs who seem to be targeted early on that meet his criteria.

This post was edited on 7/30/21 at 6:45 am
Posted by MorbidTheClown
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Posted on 7/30/21 at 7:17 am to
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 7/30/21 at 8:40 am to
I'm not real sure the Cookout is the predominant alliance anyway. And even though 2 members of it put up white guys, in both cases the whole house wanted those 2 guys out. I get the criticism of the alliance, but at this point they really haven't made any game defining moves. And history shows that alliance formed along gender and race line rarely succeed, and this one is already showing some cracks.
Posted by lionward2014
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Posted on 7/30/21 at 9:05 am to
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And history shows that alliance formed along gender and race line rarely succeed


You forgot about all those all female alliances that have dominated throughout BB history. /s
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