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re: Big Brother 21 - Season Long Thread - Premiere June 25th

Posted on 9/20/19 at 2:38 pm to
Posted by landrywasbeast30
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Posted on 9/20/19 at 2:38 pm to
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He used a nine/eight person alliance to make it through the chaos early on. The six turning on the three outsiders bought Jackson time to go under the radar. By the time the six folded, they had made it into the jury portion and Jackson had the numbers (Cliff, Nicole) and won the HOHs (him and Holly) to survive. The last half of the season the only real competition to Jackson and Holly in any physical or endurance comp was Tommy.


He doesn’t get enough credit for this. He was a leader in a dominant alliance. That alliance turned on him for no reason. While he was the biggest target in the house, he formed another alliance that all made final 4, including his showmance, and all the people who turned on him are sitting in jury.
Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 9/20/19 at 2:40 pm to
I’m relatively new to BB, season 17 maybe. Nicole winning would be the biggest underdog winning ever, right?

Realistically it’s going to be a power couple though in the final 2. That’d be another first too I suspect
This post was edited on 9/20/19 at 2:44 pm
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 9/20/19 at 2:55 pm to
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Obvoiusly there's 1-3 real stunners every year but man she is a knockout. It helps that, unlike analyse, she also seems pretty cool and funny.



Yeah she grew on me. Thought she was too made up and looked fake in the preshow pictures, but she is fire.

And yes very cool. Still can’t touch Jess the GOAT, but she is up there imo.


Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 9/20/19 at 2:58 pm to
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He doesn’t get enough credit for this. He was a leader in a dominant alliance. That alliance turned on him for no reason. While he was the biggest target in the house, he formed another alliance that all made final 4, including his showmance, and all the people who turned on him are sitting in jury.




Good points
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 9/20/19 at 3:02 pm to
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I’m relatively new to BB, season 17 maybe. Nicole winning would be the biggest underdog winning ever, right?



I don’t remember the earlier seasons as well as a lot of the experts on here, but I’d think she would be up there with Ian as far as underdogs winning.

Hell, Josh might be the biggest actually. I’d have never thought he had a shot. Nicole and Ian at least seemed somewhat intelligent and knew the game. I still think Josh is a fricking moron and clown.


But both Ian and Josh won mainly due to bitter juries against someone who ran the game.

Sound familiar??


Congrats Nicole
Posted by tk for tu juan
Houston
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 9/20/19 at 4:06 pm to
Jordan in BB11 was an underdog. She didn’t start winning until the end, then finished by winning final HOH and took the skank Natalie to final 2.
Posted by tk for tu juan
Houston
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Posted on 9/20/19 at 5:21 pm to
Goodbye messages to Cliff
Michie, not the best message but not as bad as Paul
Posted by BayouCatFan
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 9/21/19 at 3:58 am to
Jackson may have been cast as the dominant alpha male, but he is far from being a dominant alpha male. He allowed Jack to lead him around(they were never equals in the bromance) and bullied women all season.

Additionally, his character flaws and personal demons forced production to give him special treatment, which gave him an unfair advantage. Even the last veto he would have lost had production not given him hints during the challenge. Finally, he has all these comp wins but majority of them seem to be against an old man, women and Tiny Tim.

By nature he is a follower, weak minded and abusive towards women. None of those are dominant alpha male traits. More like he is a giant pussy and a huge phony, which viewers see thru and is precisely why he gets so much hate. He is not true to himself because he projects an image that is an exact opposite of who he is to the core. If he were a true alpha, such as Cody, he would probably be universally loved and considered a BB great.

Something tells me his momma must have found TD and has begun posting her son's virtues or else we have the president of his fan club in our midst.
This post was edited on 9/21/19 at 6:10 am
Posted by saturday
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 9/21/19 at 8:26 am to
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Additionally, his character flaws and personal demons forced production to give him special treatment, which gave him an unfair advantage. 



I've seen people post this several times but what exactly happened? I'm sure it's somewhere in this thread but could someone give me a rundown on what the story is here?
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
30634 posts
Posted on 9/21/19 at 8:28 am to
I’ve seen it mentioned on other forums but what the hell did Bella do to production for them to shite all over her without giving a damn?

Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 9/21/19 at 9:21 am to
I completely agree.

For Nick to just be flaunting his and Kat’s relationship with no regard to how he left things with Bella, and CBS not addressing it, is just weird.


And if I was single, I’d be sure to get around Kat at some point because she seems very willing to mingle with anyone within arms reach


Zero percent chance her and Jack didn’t frick all over that house before Sis got there


And then she just stepped aside and waited for the next warm body. Same as she did with Jackson.

She seems like that rare breed of woman that is actually good with no strings attached.

I’m a fan
This post was edited on 9/21/19 at 9:22 am
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 9/21/19 at 9:33 am to
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regard to how he left things with Bella, and CBS not addressing it, is just weird.


Meh. They were a fling like kids have at summer camp, it meant nothing and would obviously not go the distance just like 99% of bb showmances. If they wanted to play up this development as being shitty, they should equally play up the shittiness of Bella actually having a legit boyfriend irl before coming into the house..
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 9/21/19 at 9:37 am to
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
Champs 03 07 09 11(fack) 19!!!
Member since Mar 2007
22101 posts
Posted on 9/21/19 at 9:51 am to
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They were a fling like kids have at summer camp, it meant nothing and would obviously not go the distance just like 99% of bb showmances.



I don’t disagree, but in his goodbye message to Bella he literally said “I would choose you 100 times out of 100” and something in her native language like you are my eternity or something and can’t wait to meet your parents.


It’s definitely a storyline.


I’ll be shocked if it isn’t addressed at the live finale.
This post was edited on 9/21/19 at 9:52 am
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
30634 posts
Posted on 9/21/19 at 10:45 am to
In a season with not much to get excited about, I’m looking forward to JC, Kayce and Tyler discussing the final three tomorrow night.

Posted by jefforize
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 9/21/19 at 10:55 am to
This season sucked
Posted by LSU6262
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 9/21/19 at 6:21 pm to
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Still can’t touch Jess the GOAT


ummm







Posted by ZIGG
Member since Dec 2016
11922 posts
Posted on 9/21/19 at 11:29 pm to
people can hate on Jackson all they want for whatever reasons they want, but at the end of the day he played the game the best this season. he dominated the competitions, social game, and carried his girlfriend to the final three.

he won't win however because of a bitter / SJW infested jury, but he deserves it.

Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30046 posts
Posted on 9/22/19 at 12:00 am to
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but he deserves it.


I have come to the conclusion over the years that the winner always deserves to win, whether I agree or not. Jury management is a huge part of the game. If the house fills up with people who would rather vote for Hitler than you then you failed at playing the best game, even if you win every single competition you play in.

If one fails to get the votes necessary to win it is impossible to argue they played the best game given the particular cast. They might have gotten my vote and they may have gotten yours but those aren't the votes they are playing for. The one wildcard one can argue against this is production's help. It certainly exists and is fair game for an argument, in this case, nobody can argue production was against Jackson this season.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 9/22/19 at 12:50 am to
Holly won Pt2 of the HOH

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