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re: Big Brother 20 - Season Long Thread

Posted on 9/28/18 at 9:59 am to
Posted by Miganey
Austin, Tx
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 9/28/18 at 9:59 am to
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Jury management is part of the game, end of story. He clearly didn't play the objectively "better" game if he didn't win. How can you blame people for being bitter when they're putting their trust in someone and get used as a stepping stone? You don't think people like that would play it differently with an allegiance to someone else? You don't have to have all these crazy underhanded moves to be considered a better player. Kaycee won as many or more comps, didn't make promises she didn't keep, and was true to her alliance until the end. Plus won the most important final HOH. How did she not play the better game in that case?


Lets face it, I believe the majority of us watch this show for the social game. Tyler had the best social game by far so naturally thats who most of us were pulling for. That doesnt take away from the fact that Kaycee did what she needed to do to win and she deserves it especially after crushing comp after comp. The issue is that Sam and Scottie basically voted for Kaycee because they were butthurt and not because Kaycee played a better game. I look at it as they voted against Tyler instead and that doesnt sit well with a lot of BB fans.

I also paid attention to Hayleighs vote bc she stated she made her decision at the last second, listening to the speeches (not really much of a speech bc we just had to get to the proposal segment)
This post was edited on 9/28/18 at 10:02 am
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
52087 posts
Posted on 9/28/18 at 10:53 am to
At least this cast doesn't really hate each other
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
73834 posts
Posted on 9/28/18 at 10:58 am to
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At least this cast doesn't really hate each other




haven't watched a lot of after season stuff but, i can see Sam holding on to her butthurt for a long time.

easily the best season in a long long time.
Posted by GammaPro
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2008
724 posts
Posted on 9/28/18 at 1:42 pm to
Bayleigh miscarried in jury house.

LINK

Don't care for either of them, but sad all around.
This post was edited on 9/28/18 at 1:42 pm
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89632 posts
Posted on 9/28/18 at 1:43 pm to
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Jury management is part of the game, end of story. He clearly didn't play the objectively "better" game if he didn't win.

How can you blame people for being bitter when they're putting their trust in someone and get used as a stepping stone? You don't think people like that would play it differently with an allegiance to someone else?


Sure it's part of the game, and pretty much entirely why josh won over paul last year. But this jury was just extremely bitter simply over the fact that tyler orchestrated most of them being out. Most of foutte+sam based strictly on "kaycee is nicer" which is a joke. Bayleigh in her comments actually gave tyler props on his game and recognized how well he played, but she would never vote for him because she hates his guts. Scottie and and fessy were both butthurt as well. Haleigh actually said she didn't know who she was going to pick until hearing their speeches, then picked tyler. Sam is a looney tune who voted kaycee "because she's been through more". Idiot.

Kaycee was a competition master, maybe the best I've ever seen. And she was loyal with her alliance. But Tyler won his fair share of comps as well and it was clear to anyone that watched the show that he was the puppet master pulling strings and making moves from the very first week. Usually in cases like that it is RARE for someone to start out dominating and make it to final 2, derrick is another that comes to mind that did it. When it comes to game play tyler absolutely deserved it. Kaycee isn't necessarily a "wrong" or bad choice, but it's a shame that the only reason she won is because the idiots voting thought she wasn't as mean as tyler.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
16225 posts
Posted on 9/28/18 at 2:00 pm to
That does suck that she miscarried. I wonder if they should've taken her out of the game when they found out she was pregnant? That house causes a lot of stress on a person, and then you throw in being pregnant on top of it, and that isn't a good situation. If she hadn't already had the miscarriage, they probably also should not have let her compete in the battle back. But that is definitely a horrible situation to have taken place in that game.
Posted by Miganey
Austin, Tx
Member since Feb 2013
3786 posts
Posted on 9/28/18 at 2:12 pm to
Fessy voted for Kaycee bc she is a comp beast..thats all he cared about bc thats all hes good at.
Posted by FalseProphet
Mecca
Member since Dec 2011
11720 posts
Posted on 9/28/18 at 2:33 pm to
quote:

How can you blame people for being bitter when they're putting their trust in someone and get used as a stepping stone? You don't think people like that would play it differently with an allegiance to someone else?


Except that is not applicable to ANY of the people that voted against Tyler.

Tyler never had a deal with any of them, never promised them a thing, and never "stepped over them."

FOUTTE's vote was bitter in the sense that they decided to vote AGAINST Tyler for no good damn reason.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
Champs 03 07 09 11(fack) 19!!!
Member since Mar 2007
22100 posts
Posted on 9/28/18 at 2:44 pm to
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Tyler never had a deal with any of them, never promised them a thing, and never "stepped over them."



Sam??


As for Bayleigh and Chris, if what they say is true that’s very sad.

No doubt in my mind CBS allowed them to at least communicate, and I still think he got to visit her in jury, and don’t even think they shouldn’t have.


They will definitely be on Amazing Race.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
68808 posts
Posted on 9/28/18 at 3:02 pm to
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Bayleigh miscarried in jury house.



I guess that helps explain why they let that ridiculous proposal go forward. Makes more sense now.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38261 posts
Posted on 9/28/18 at 3:20 pm to
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But this jury was just extremely bitter simply over the fact that tyler orchestrated most of them being out

So.....why can't they be bitter? You can't just take the human element out of people. Knowing that a jury votes the winner has to be part of your gameplan, there's no two ways about it. Tyler mishandled both JC and Sam down the stretch big time and he's lucky he still had JC's vote.

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Bayleigh in her comments actually gave tyler props on his game and recognized how well he played, but she would never vote for him because she hates his guts

How about don't make people hate your guts? Again, social game is just as important, if not more important in a lot of cases, then the comps themselves. Kaycee didn't wreck her social game and won tons of comps. Tyler won tons of comps but made promises to a lot of people that weren't kept. In my book that's not good social gameplay, sorry.
Posted by BayouCatFan
Member since Jul 2008
4580 posts
Posted on 9/28/18 at 3:22 pm to
I watched the youtube video Bayleigh made about her miscarriage. She said multiple times they don't know why the miscarriage happened and that they are trying to figure it out. Do you suppose they are talking to an attorney and are going to sue BB? Why else would she say that unless they are blaming BB?
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
42049 posts
Posted on 9/28/18 at 3:26 pm to
BB has a clause in the contracts in place about unprotected sex. I believe they're protected.
Posted by Miganey
Austin, Tx
Member since Feb 2013
3786 posts
Posted on 9/28/18 at 4:01 pm to
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I watched the youtube video Bayleigh made about her miscarriage. She said multiple times they don't know why the miscarriage happened and that they are trying to figure it out. Do you suppose they are talking to an attorney and are going to sue BB? Why else would she say that unless they are blaming BB?



They shouldn't bite the hand
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 9/28/18 at 4:09 pm to
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Do you suppose they are talking to an attorney and are going to sue BB? Why else would she say that unless they are blaming BB?


Coming from 2 people who did absolutely nothing but blame everybody else for their problems all season, what do you think?

Hopefully that the other poster is correct and BB covers their arse regarding this.
Posted by DivotBreath
On the course
Member since Oct 2007
3707 posts
Posted on 9/28/18 at 4:11 pm to
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They will definitely be on Amazing Race


Not so sure about that . . . she seems like too much of a “princess” and he seems like too much of a puss to do what’s required on The Amazing Race. Their “15 minutes” is probably done after the weekend.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 9/28/18 at 6:02 pm to
I feel shitty for saying this because it’s probably way off base but is it possible bay had the pregnancy “taken care of” and the miscarriage is a cover?
Posted by Uncle Gunnysack
Member since Apr 2016
5541 posts
Posted on 9/28/18 at 6:17 pm to
the PR damage has already been done so no reason to even admit they were pregnant in the first place if they went that route. if it makes you feel better though, i also had the same thought initially
Posted by prostyleoffensetime
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2009
12258 posts
Posted on 9/28/18 at 6:19 pm to
Wouldn’t shock me a bit with those two.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49884 posts
Posted on 9/28/18 at 6:38 pm to
That was my first thought too. I'm a cynical person, so I was wondering why they would even tell people.
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