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re: Beauty and the Beast thoughts and discussions

Posted on 3/18/17 at 8:53 pm to
Posted by JabarkusRussell
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Posted on 3/18/17 at 8:53 pm to
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The only reason anyone knows anything gay was going on is because they told us.


It was blatantly obvious in the "Gaston" song with how flimsy Gad was acting. Lafou may have been thirsty in the cartoon but he wasn't effeminate about it. If anything, he came across as an obsessed stalker.
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 3/18/17 at 8:55 pm to
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Are you afraid to discuss your failures as a parent?





Troll on, sir, troll on.

I won't take my girls to see R-rated flicks or pornos either. Just awful parents, I tell ya.
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 3/18/17 at 9:02 pm to
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It was blatantly obvious in the "Gaston" song with how flimsy Gad was acting. Lafou may have been thirsty in the cartoon but he wasn't effeminate about it. If anything, he came across as an obsessed stalker.


Maybe that was the problem. Maybe they were trying to make him come off more as a closeted gay man, and the acting just couldn't pull it off.

Maybe the way the character was written was part of it, too. I mean, if you're going to have him suddenly turn on Gaston and become a good guy, wouldn't you have him just stick with Belle's dad and release him? Or not lie to everyone for Gaston to get Belle's dad thrown in the loony bin? Or simply stay back in the village and release Belle and her dad from captivity? NO WAY! The big change of heart naturally comes during a fight with enchanted household items in a house occupied by a hideous beast he has no connection to! Um...
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 3/18/17 at 9:11 pm to
Because Gaston left him to be smudged... Gaston had never left him before
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 3/18/17 at 9:14 pm to
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Because Gaston left him to be smudged... Gaston had never left him before


I know that's what they were going for, but it seemed forced to me. Dude leaves you underneath a piano, so you suddenly change sides and fight against everyone you've ever known your entire life alongside all of these enchanted monsters? Sure. It would have made more sense if he had slipped away and stayed behind to free Belle and her dad. The Gaston "leaving him" moment could have happened earlier.

Maybe the actor didn't sell it well enough. I just don't think that one is on him.
This post was edited on 3/18/17 at 10:13 pm
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 3/18/17 at 9:17 pm to
Gaston left him... That was his deal breaker... It showed Gaston did not care if he died.
When he was undecided about Maurice, Gaston refers to him as his friend and says, "who has always been there with you."

Then Gaston left him under a piano to die, he didn't care about everyone else, only Gaston.
This post was edited on 3/18/17 at 9:18 pm
Posted by jg8623
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Posted on 3/18/17 at 9:18 pm to
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She is a large reason the movie is going to make $500M this weekend.


Posted by jg8623
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Posted on 3/18/17 at 9:29 pm to
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You seem to not understand what sheltering is


I think having another adult screen a PG Disney movie before you let them see it easily fits the definition of sheltering
Posted by JabarkusRussell
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Posted on 3/18/17 at 9:32 pm to
Did they take out the "every inch of me is covered in hair" because Evans is gay and probably shaves? I had no idea he was gay until this thread. Also, the fact that half this thread is centered on gay talk is the very reason it shouldn't have been included. Now instead of people talking about how the movie was, we focus on that.

Also, I was pissed that Chip didn't sneak into Belle's bag and help get them out of the looney bin.
This post was edited on 3/18/17 at 9:33 pm
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 3/18/17 at 9:34 pm to
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I think having another adult screen a PG Disney movie before you let them see it easily fits the definition of sheltering


If you think the rating of a movie is what determines whether or not it is acceptable viewing for children, then you probably shouldn't breed.
Posted by jg8623
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Posted on 3/18/17 at 9:37 pm to
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If you think the rating of a movie is what determines whether or not it is acceptable viewing for children, then you probably shouldn't breed.


It's Disneys Beauty and the Beast....
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 3/18/17 at 9:38 pm to
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Did they take out the "every inch of me is covered in hair" because Evans is gay and probably shaves?



I think his lack of hair was the reason, yes.

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I had no idea he was gay until this thread. Also, the fact that half this thread is centered on gay talk is the very reason it shouldn't have been included. Now instead of people talking about how the movie was, we focus on that.


It makes no sense to me that they even mentioned it. It was so minuscule that no one would have ever noticed it. Maybe that's why they felt they had to bring it up.

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Also, I was pissed that Chip didn't sneak into Belle's bag and help get them out of the looney bin.


Completely forgot about that until just now. What an odd thing to remove.

Did anyone think this was better than the original?
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 3/18/17 at 9:40 pm to
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It's Disneys Beauty and the Beast...


Yes, because that automatically means it's going to be okay for children...

Some of you make it blindingly obvious that you are entirely too trusting of ratings systems and movie studios.
Posted by jg8623
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Posted on 3/18/17 at 9:44 pm to
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Yes, because that automatically means it's going to be okay for children...




They make their movies for young children.

Whenever I see a Disney movie that was made for young kids that's not appropriate for young kids I'll agree. But that's yet to happen...
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 3/18/17 at 9:46 pm to
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I know that's what they were going for, but it seemed forced to me. Dude leaves you underneath a piano, so you suddenly change sides and fight against everyone you've ever known your entire life alongside all of these enchanted minsters?


His disdain for what Gaston was doing started when they left Maurice to die in the woods. He tried to take Maurice's side in the pub when he miraculously showed up accusing Gaston of attempted murder, but decided to side with Gaston when he was threatened with physical harm.

He clearly was not in favor of sending him or Belle to the nuthouse, nor was he particularly in favor of storming the castle. You could see his clear lack of enthusiasm for the cause as they rode through the darkness singing "Kill the Beast."

Leaving LeFou for dead at the base of the staircase was the last straw.
Posted by Signal Soldier
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Posted on 3/18/17 at 10:05 pm to
I thought the movie was great and felt like Emma Watson was perfect for that role
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 3/18/17 at 10:16 pm to
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They make their movies for young children.


This movie was made for people who were young children when the last one came out. Based on my kids' reaction, it definitely wasn't aimed at them. The last I checked, the most vocal of the people who were children when the cartoon came out are now all SJW morons.

But by all means, you keep trusting Disney. I can't think of any reason anyone would think they have some agenda they're pushing. It's not like they own ESPN or anything.
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 3/18/17 at 10:21 pm to
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His disdain for what Gaston was doing started when they left Maurice to die in the woods. He tried to take Maurice's side in the pub when he miraculously showed up accusing Gaston of attempted murder, but decided to side with Gaston when he was threatened with physical harm.

He clearly was not in favor of sending him or Belle to the nuthouse, nor was he particularly in favor of storming the castle. You could see his clear lack of enthusiasm for the cause as they rode through the darkness singing "Kill the Beast."

Leaving LeFou for dead at the base of the staircase was the last straw.


I get it. I just think the "last straw" would have made more sense earlier. In the middle of a battle seems like a really odd time for the character to "change sides" to join up with creatures he has no connection with. Also seems odd for the castle inhabitants to suddenly trust him.
This post was edited on 3/18/17 at 10:34 pm
Posted by jg8623
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Posted on 3/18/17 at 10:35 pm to
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But by all means, you keep trusting Disney. I can't think of any reason anyone would think they have some agenda they're pushing. It's not like they own ESPN or anything.




My point was, show me a reason why I shouldn't trust Disneys movies at this point

What Disney movie has been made thats not appropriate for kids???

And their "agenda" so far is making a shitload of money from movies millions of kids go to see. It would be a genius idea to screw up that simple plan by making a kids movie not appropriate for kids
This post was edited on 3/18/17 at 10:40 pm
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 3/18/17 at 10:38 pm to
I liked some of the things added like Mr. Potts, the characters turning into life less objects at the end, and the magic book.

I didn't like that Gaston was basically a retired pirate and used a gun instead of a knife in the final battle. Also didn't care for the addition about Prince Adam's cruel father.
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