re: A Dance With Dragons - Official Post-release SPOILER Thread

Martin reportedly was having some problems of a sexual nature a few years back. That could be the reason for the books becoming more and more pornographic.

I just remember it making the rounds on some of the message boards a few years ago, and someone brought it up a few weeks ago when the book came out.

I doubt it was well publicized but as we can see with the SEC Rant, fans can ferret out the craziest stuff.

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Okay I looked and it was basically a urinary tract infection from hell. It turned into sepsis and he was hospitalized. That could definitely effect his attitude to sex. I mean if my tallywhacker turned black and septic....um...yeah. No.

God I'm bored. Urosepsis is most likely to occur in adult males with diabetes. Diabetics are much more likely to suffer from ED when they hit the 50-60 year mark than normal males.

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GRRM can't get it up. GRRM writes overly graphic sex scenes in his novels. Just another example of an author engaging in wish fulfillment though their writing.

Mystery solved.

Thanks for the research and good info. Glad it's not football season yet, or I imagine you wouldn't have been bored enough to go to the trouble.

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The only place this thinking kind of comes apart is that he was working with Ilyrio to set up Dany's return (or Viserys before he died), but Aegon was the true heir. That doesn't make much sense to me if he knew and was involved in Aegon's hiding/education(and how could he not be?). Why would he set up a secret pact to marry Viserys to Arianne Martell if he knew Aegon was out there to one day come back as king?

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Don't put all you dragon's eggs in one basket. Gotta have a backup plan. Doubt Varys cares which Targ claims the throne as long as it is a Targ.

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Jon is definitely going to be reborn as AA. The bleeding star, salt and smoke prophecy.

"When the red star bleeds and the darkness gathers, Azor Ahai shall be born again amidst smoke and salt to wake dragons out of stone.”

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Only problem is that Dany is the one who woke dragons out of stone (unless more dragons are coming (crosses fingers)).

Did anyone notice the name of the ship Selaesori Quoran? Tyrion called it the Stinky Steward but wouldn't Perfumed Seneschal fit just as well? I'm not sure who was aboard that Dany should beware of though. Tyrion is hoping to ally with her, Ser Jorah loves her, Penny seems harmless enough. That leaves Moqorro, but the Red Priests are obsessed with the AA prophecy, so that would presumably place Moqorro in Dany's camp. Maybe that name is just misdirection. There's also a corpse pickled in brine, could that be a wight sent to kill her?

The mention of Aerys and Joanna didn't really move me one way or another on the matter of Tyrion's parentage. I'm still waiting for Dany, Ser Barristan, and Tyrion to all come face to face. That entire passage, (along with Grif and Aegon), just made me suspect that Martin really has been reading the fan sites and is letting them affect the direction of the story. (I also got a gay vibe from Grif, seemed to have had a bit of a mancrush on Rhaegar.)

All in all, I was disapointed. The story really didn't move forward in the least. I've got very little hope that he can wrap it up in two more books.

The scene where Dany finally rode Drogon was pretty cool, and Val of the Free Folk could become another of my favorites, (probably means Martin kills her in the next book).

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Just finished it. Soooooooooooo many cliffhangers. Who is and isn't alive? AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

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It is rather irritating to be given so many cliffhangers and wonder if it will be another 5 years for the next one.

At least Crows had some feeling of closure to it...yeah there were some hangers, and things were open, but still.

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I suspected he had put the missing Frey's into the pie as I read it, but is there any confirmation of this?

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Yeah, the ASOIAF website had a pre-book guessing game or something about what kinds of deaths would show up in the book. Baked into a pie was one of the ones mentioned by one of Martin's editors I believe. Manderly was a definite highlight of a rather disappointing book due to all the lame cliffhangers and lack of any plot movement.

I don't get the hate for this book it was the second half of feast for crows which was a book that was trying to get all the chess pieces in place before the major moves come in. What exactly were you expecting? Every story has lulls in the action and this is where we are now. Its still one of the better books I've read in quite some time not counting the other asoiaf books I just don't get the bitching