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re: Your daily dose of white guilt from ESPN - "travel ball excludes poor blacks"

Posted on 7/3/16 at 8:49 pm to
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
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Posted on 7/3/16 at 8:49 pm to
There is nothing that excludes black grandparents from creating and forming baseball or softball teams.

If they do not have the ambition and motivation to do so then that is on them and nobody else.

What does it teach kids if the adults expect white people to create teams for black kids. That's a double edged sword for the team sponsor... you're either trying to manipulate the kids for your benefit or your racist for not manipulating the kids for your benefit.
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
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Posted on 7/3/16 at 8:50 pm to
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Police, banks, schools, credit, travel ball, white Hispanics

It's amazing black folk can walk down the street unaccosted with all the enemies they have.




you left out other blacks
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/3/16 at 8:55 pm to
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“It’s not even intentional, but it’s institutionalized racism. It’s crazy to ask a college coach to recruit a black kid with new requirements for APR. You lose scholarships if kids don’t perform in the classroom.


what
the
frick



it's actually pretty racist for Stewart to imply that their black players can't be successful both on the field and in the classroom.

That's one of the sadder things I find in these articles is that the black leaders straight up say that their kids can't cut it and won't be able to make it if standards aren't lowered or designed to benefit one group of people solely.
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39156 posts
Posted on 7/3/16 at 8:59 pm to
We got all of our equipment from sponsors, reebok and Rawlings kept us in matching new gear
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32357 posts
Posted on 7/3/16 at 9:20 pm to
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We got all of our equipment from sponsors, reebok and Rawlings kept us in matching new gear


Those items are the smallest cost of being on a travel team. Someone had to get you to practice, ballgames, travel cost, hotel rooms, lost time at work for large/long tournaments, etc., etc. We did travel/select soccer back in the day. I wore my team sweatshirt years after we quit traveling and a parent saw me in the sweatshirt and asked, "you still have that thing"? Well, hell yes. This is my $10,000 sweatshirt!
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39156 posts
Posted on 7/3/16 at 9:23 pm to
It was like 4 grand a summer for an out of town tournament every weekend, multiple showcases, and atleast three in town games during the week. It really wasn't that big of a deal, and I could drive for the last three years of playing
This post was edited on 7/3/16 at 9:24 pm
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 7/3/16 at 9:25 pm to
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It was like 4 grand a summer for an out of town tournament every weekend, multiple showcases, and atleast three in town games during the week. It really wasn't that big of a deal, and I could drive for the last three years of playing








Im sure you were adding up your parents receipts.
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39156 posts
Posted on 7/3/16 at 9:26 pm to
The total was on the big arse binder we would get before every season

Probably another grand or two for food and what not. But not that big of a deal
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26585 posts
Posted on 7/3/16 at 9:34 pm to
Travel ball is trash anyways
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32357 posts
Posted on 7/3/16 at 9:36 pm to
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It was like 4 grand a summer for an out of town tournament every weekend, multiple showcases, and atleast three in town games during the week. It really wasn't that big of a deal, and I could drive for the last three years of playing


Well, I guess you miss totally the point of this whole thread because poor families (white, black, purple, brown, red, you name it) 4 grand is a huge deal. We did it as something of an investment thinking he had college scholarship level talent. We were fortunate in that we could do it. Kids probably more talented than my kid could not pull it off.

Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39156 posts
Posted on 7/3/16 at 9:38 pm to
You missed my earlier point too that the complex I played out of(as well as other programs around Atlanta) would play against these poorer teams and recruit the top players off them and essentially give them scholarships to come play with us

If you have the talent you will get opportunities, no matter your socioeconomic status
This post was edited on 7/3/16 at 9:39 pm
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32357 posts
Posted on 7/3/16 at 9:52 pm to
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You missed my earlier point too that the complex I played out of(as well as other programs around Atlanta) would play against these poorer teams and recruit the top players off them and essentially give them scholarships to come play with us

If you have the talent you will get opportunities, no matter your socioeconomic status


We made sacrifices to do what we did. If someone brought in a kid with a full ride and no expenses, I would have been pissed.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
32018 posts
Posted on 7/3/16 at 9:54 pm to
quote:

You missed my earlier point too that the complex I played out of(as well as other programs around Atlanta) would play against these poorer teams and recruit the top players off them and essentially give them scholarships to come play with us If you have the talent you will get opportunities, no matter your socioeconomic status





I sure as hell ain't paying for someone else's kid to play travel ball. Travel ball parents are crazy
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39156 posts
Posted on 7/3/16 at 9:56 pm to
Well then wtf do you want? That was a way of helping the most talented yet least well off players, seems like a good thing to me
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39156 posts
Posted on 7/3/16 at 9:58 pm to
You sure as hell ain't paying for your kid to play travel ball(because he isn't good enough) let alone anyone else so it's irrelevant
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
32018 posts
Posted on 7/3/16 at 10:02 pm to
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You sure as hell ain't paying for your kid to play travel ball(because he isn't good enough) let alone anyone else so it's irrelevant



You know nothing caplewood
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39156 posts
Posted on 7/3/16 at 10:05 pm to
Look, it's ok your kid plays rec ball.. Nothing to be more than mildly ashamed of
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
50362 posts
Posted on 7/3/16 at 10:07 pm to
White kid here and mom was a teacher, dad a cop. Invited to play travel ball and mom saw how much it would cost and she said GFY.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57793 posts
Posted on 7/3/16 at 10:26 pm to
My brother is an executive for an oil Corp and he won't even put his son in travel ball.

There's a saying about a fool and parting with his money.

5-10k for a summer of baseball for a kid is ludicrous
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72193 posts
Posted on 7/3/16 at 10:39 pm to
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My brother is an executive for an oil Corp and he won't even put his son in travel ball.

There's a saying about a fool and parting with his money.

5-10k for a summer of baseball for a kid is ludicrous
Your brother is a smart man. Travel ball is dumb.
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