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re: Would you rather Burrow on the Bengals or the Dolphins?

Posted on 1/22/20 at 9:31 am to
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
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Posted on 1/22/20 at 9:31 am to
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Playoff appearances in 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015 and 2016. Hardly a dumpster fire.


and all losses.
haven't won a playoff game in 30 years.
They are one of those fires you see the bums making in the barrels.
Posted by His Majesty
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Posted on 1/22/20 at 9:42 am to
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and all losses


with andy dalton at qb

And making the playoffs all those years with steelers and ravens in the division
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
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Posted on 1/22/20 at 9:50 am to
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with andy dalton at qb

And making the playoffs all those years with steelers and ravens in the division



And nothing to show for it.
Even Tim Tebow, TJ Yates, Brock Osweiller,Matt Schaub have won a Playoff game.


This is a bad franchise.
But the Dolphins ain't good either.


That said, Burrow will change it
This post was edited on 1/22/20 at 9:51 am
Posted by His Majesty
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Posted on 1/22/20 at 9:58 am to
Im not saying the result isn’t bad. You play to win the game

But dumpster fire/worst organization ever franchises don’t do that well and they did it with a below average player at the biggest impact position

They’re not a great franchise, but it’s not a franchise that dooms your career and that is beyond the help of a generational talent QB if he is all that everyone thinks he can be
Posted by His Majesty
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Posted on 1/22/20 at 10:00 am to
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This is a bad franchise.
But the Dolphins ain't good either.



Agreed. Just not a dumpster fire, and certainly not as hopeless and mismanaged as they’re made out to be

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Burrow will change it

Agree. I think he’s the best and most pro ready prospect since peyton manning
Posted by His Majesty
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Posted on 1/22/20 at 10:03 am to
Also mike brown made carson palmer the highest paid player only 2 years into his rookie deal. He takes care of players.

On a side note, i don’t think palmer was all he was cracked up to be. Not a bad qb. But overrated and used an easy scapegoat in mike brown as an excuse for not being some all world QB with super bowls. He’s kind of an annoying whiner
This post was edited on 1/22/20 at 10:21 am
Posted by bulldog95
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Posted on 1/22/20 at 10:03 am to
If the bengals invested in getting an OL and revamping their defense then I’d say Cleveland. Better Rbs and wrs than Miami if they had cowboys, saints, titans, or colts IL then it’s a no brained to go to Cleveland.

Miami has better coaching but maybe just maybe Cleveland can finally get it’s act together in regards to coach’s and a GM.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
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Posted on 1/22/20 at 10:03 am to
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Just not a dumpster fire, and certainly not as hopeless and mismanaged as they’re made out to be

i think they are though.
Not "DUMPSTER FIRE" but an awful franchise, in both value and success.


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Agree. I think he’s the best and most pro ready prospect since peyton manning

QFT
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 1/22/20 at 10:09 am to
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If the bengals invested in getting an OL and revamping their defense then I’d say Cleveland. Better Rbs and wrs than Miami if they had cowboys, saints, titans, or colts IL then it’s a no brained to go to Cleveland. Miami has better coaching but maybe just maybe Cleveland can finally get it’s act together in regards to coach’s and a GM.


I know it’s hard to tell sometimes but the Bengals and the Browns are two separate franchises
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 1/22/20 at 10:21 am to
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Dolphins easily

Posted by Northshore Saint
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Posted on 1/22/20 at 10:31 am to
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The bengals have way more playoff appearances and a lot of those were with andy dalton at QB.

Im sure the dolphins have nicer facilities and miami is the more attractive destination for young millionaires, but the bengals aren’t the dumpster fire people make them out to be.



People are going to look back on Marvin Lewis one day and realize what a miracle it was he pulled off in Cincinnati. I'm not sure many coaches around could have overcame the ineptitude he had to and achieve the success he did.
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 1/22/20 at 10:33 am to
I could root for any AFC team as my backup, really just don’t want Burrow in the NFC (esp NFC South) unless he’s Saint Joe.
This post was edited on 1/22/20 at 10:34 am
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 1/22/20 at 10:35 am to
Devante Parker is already a top 5 WR. He almost singlehandedly beat both the Eagles and Patriots in must win games for PHI and NE.
This post was edited on 1/22/20 at 11:02 am
Posted by His Majesty
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Posted on 1/22/20 at 10:40 am to
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People are going to look back on Marvin Lewis one day and realize what a miracle it was he pulled off in Cincinnati. I'm not sure many coaches around could have overcame the ineptitude he had to and achieve the success he did.




He’s a good coach. The talent wasn’t dog shite when he was there either. I’m sure he has something to do with that. Miracle? No. He had the dogs to win playoff games. Dalton was a bigger handicap than anything else. Dalton had running backs and receivers galore, and was above average because all things being even, he’s a very below average player

Also who is the guy who hired lewis, and stayed with him despite the same people who now claim he was a miracle worker saying for years he should be canned
Posted by YNWA
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Posted on 1/22/20 at 10:41 am to
Hate to say it but Burrow has bust written all over him. 23. Heisman winner. Best season any QB has had. Will be drafted #1 to a bad franchise and be expected to be the savior. Nowhere to go but down.
Posted by El Magnifico
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Posted on 1/22/20 at 10:42 am to
Dolphins
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/22/20 at 10:48 am to
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I'd tell the Dolphins to throw in next year's first and you've got a deal.



That's overkill. Ricky Williams only fetched two first-rounders. Three should be enough to get it done.
This post was edited on 1/22/20 at 10:50 am
Posted by dhuck20
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Posted on 1/22/20 at 10:50 am to
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I'd take that swap if I were the Bengals in a heart beat

Bengals could take Tua and then have 2 other 1RD picks. Don't think Burrow is THAT much better than Tua.
Posted by HubbaBubba
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Posted on 1/22/20 at 10:54 am to
Cincinnati in winter:



Miami in winter:



Any questions?
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 1/22/20 at 10:56 am to
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Hate to say it but Burrow has bust written all over him


Dude was routinely progressing through 4 and 5 reads against the best defenses in the country (Bama Georgia Clemson) while keeping his eyes downfield and moving in the pocket like a young John Elway. He is the best QB prospect since at least Andrew Luck.
This post was edited on 1/22/20 at 10:58 am
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