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re: Will the Houston Rockets be a Top 4 seed?
Posted on 10/2/13 at 12:44 am to SwaggerCopter
Posted on 10/2/13 at 12:44 am to SwaggerCopter
quote:i think someone is viewing the world through red and white glasses but we are all entitled to our opinion
Yes. I think he would make the All-Star team
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Posted on 10/2/13 at 12:44 am to Fearthehat0307
I think my argument would be the one I've hated in this thread. "No."
Posted on 10/2/13 at 12:45 am to Fearthehat0307
I didn't say he deserved it!
Posted on 10/2/13 at 12:46 am to Fearthehat0307
quote:You've got to be kidding.
Roberts > Beverly
Beverley has earned a reputation of being one of the best backup PG's in the league. Could be a starter in the NBA.
And as far as Lin being an All-Star if Harden wasn't on the team... I don't know about that. But he would certainly be better. Lin is a ball-dominant PG who thrives in a pick and roll offense.
Harden's strength is also the pick and roll. And since Harden is better, it was run more with him than it was with Lin.
So Lin was forced to learn to play off the ball... something he wasn't used to doing. So he had to learn.
If Harden was not on the Rockets, and Lin was allowed to play to his strengths, he would put up better numbers.
And even playing off the ball, his numbers weren't bad.
Posted on 10/2/13 at 12:54 am to ZTiger87
Howard and Asik won't play many minutes together. Teams would stretch them out like crazy, but Asik is the one playing the 4 there. His fouls are expendable. Dwights are not.
Regardless, if Smith starts (and I don't think he'll play starter minutes) and Davis plays the four, then the Davis/Ryan Anderson combo is far superior to Terrance Jones. How on earth you can say Jones as a starter at the 4(regardless of who is backup) is better than Davis is beyond belief.
Also, I am willing to be Montejunes is going to outplay Jones and be the starter. Jones was in the damn D-League last year. AD/Ryno is better than that combo as well.
In short, I think you're trying too hard to justify your statement by throwing Howard at the four.
I think 3 of 5 is more accurate.At the PG:
I see it like this
Defensively:
Holiday>> Beverly
Holiday>>>>Lin
Offensively:
Holiday>>Beverly
Lin> or = Holiday (but limited since Lin only goes right)
That being said, Rockets will be a top 4 seed because they have 2 All NBA players and a deep roster.
Regardless, if Smith starts (and I don't think he'll play starter minutes) and Davis plays the four, then the Davis/Ryan Anderson combo is far superior to Terrance Jones. How on earth you can say Jones as a starter at the 4(regardless of who is backup) is better than Davis is beyond belief.
Also, I am willing to be Montejunes is going to outplay Jones and be the starter. Jones was in the damn D-League last year. AD/Ryno is better than that combo as well.
In short, I think you're trying too hard to justify your statement by throwing Howard at the four.
I think 3 of 5 is more accurate.At the PG:
I see it like this
Defensively:
Holiday>> Beverly
Holiday>>>>Lin
Offensively:
Holiday>>Beverly
Lin> or = Holiday (but limited since Lin only goes right)
That being said, Rockets will be a top 4 seed because they have 2 All NBA players and a deep roster.
Posted on 10/2/13 at 1:00 am to RonBurgundy
1. Beverley is an awesome defender.
2. I have not been a huge Terrence Jones guy, but Dwight Howard loves him. And Donatas has also had a great offseason. He has put on a lot of muscle.
We will see, but I think the Rockets are being underrated. I think most superstars would be frustrated in shitty Orlando and struggle to get along with Kobe. Howard will be good again. Thanks LA for footing the bill on Dwight's rehab year.
2. I have not been a huge Terrence Jones guy, but Dwight Howard loves him. And Donatas has also had a great offseason. He has put on a lot of muscle.
We will see, but I think the Rockets are being underrated. I think most superstars would be frustrated in shitty Orlando and struggle to get along with Kobe. Howard will be good again. Thanks LA for footing the bill on Dwight's rehab year.
Posted on 10/2/13 at 1:01 am to PrimeTime Money
quote:
Roberts > Beverly
You've got to be kidding.
Beverley has earned a reputation of being one of the best backup PG's in the league. Could be a starter in the NBA.
sarcasm detector malfunction
Posted on 10/2/13 at 1:02 am to SwaggerCopter
quote:i don't think being considered a contender in the west is underrated
but I think the Rockets are being underrated.
Posted on 10/2/13 at 1:06 am to Fearthehat0307
I don't think everyone has them as a contender, thus the bet I made. When the Heat were assembled, everyone handed them a championship. Since they didn't win right away, I think people got gun shy about crowning these super teams to the point where most of the experts are really discrediting the Rockets this year.
Posted on 10/2/13 at 1:08 am to SwaggerCopter
quote:i don't think that has to do with the heat not winning in year 1. it has more to do with being in the same division as the pels. that is a scary thing for any nba team to have to deal with
most of the experts are really discrediting the Rockets this year.
Posted on 10/2/13 at 1:09 am to Fearthehat0307
I can appreciate a good homer.Posted on 10/2/13 at 1:16 am to SwaggerCopter
Posted on 10/2/13 at 1:48 am to Fearthehat0307
lets rank the players
1. harden, HOU
2. howard, HOU
3. Anthony Davis, NOP
4. Eric Gordon, NOP
5. Ryan Anderson, NOP
6. Jrue Holliday, NOP
7. Chandler Parsons, HOU
8. Tyreke Evans, NOP
9. Omir Asik, HOU
10. Jeremy Lin, HOU
4 of the top 6 players on either team are Pelicans
HOU is definitely more top heavy, and their other players are good, but not quite as solid as the Pelicans. But because of the 2 frontline superstars, they are probably the slightly better team overall
1. harden, HOU
2. howard, HOU
3. Anthony Davis, NOP
4. Eric Gordon, NOP
5. Ryan Anderson, NOP
6. Jrue Holliday, NOP
7. Chandler Parsons, HOU
8. Tyreke Evans, NOP
9. Omir Asik, HOU
10. Jeremy Lin, HOU
4 of the top 6 players on either team are Pelicans
HOU is definitely more top heavy, and their other players are good, but not quite as solid as the Pelicans. But because of the 2 frontline superstars, they are probably the slightly better team overall
Posted on 10/2/13 at 1:57 am to Lester Earl
Slightly better? Rockets will finish 10+ games ahead of the Hornets
Rockets will finish 10+ games ahead of the HornetsPosted on 10/2/13 at 2:02 am to Lester Earl
quote:
lets rank the players
1. harden, HOU
2. howard, HOU
3. Anthony Davis, NOP
4. Eric Gordon, NOP
5. Chandler Parsons, HOU
6. Omir Asik, HOU
7. Tyreke Evans, NOP
8. Ryan Anderson, NOP
9. Jrue Holliday, NOP
10. Jeremy Lin, HOU
fify
No way does Houston trade Parsons for any of the guys below him. Gordon, when healthy, might be better, but who knows at this point. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt though. Asik, Evans and Anderson are all pretty close. I think most teams would rather have the defensive stud center.
This post was edited on 10/2/13 at 2:08 am
Posted on 10/2/13 at 3:00 am to Fearthehat0307
Thunder fix'n to look like the Seattle supersonics next season
Rockets will still need another season to get into the top 4 imo.... if you mean top 4 in west??? HELL YES. EASILYT
And saying: "jrue holiday, eric gordon, tyreke evans, anthony davis, al farouq aminu, ryan anderson, austin rivers" just sounds so nice. Such a solid team here
This post was edited on 10/2/13 at 3:07 am
Posted on 10/2/13 at 3:01 am to ZTiger87
quote:
lets rank the players
1. harden, HOU
2. howard, HOU
3. Anthony Davis, NOP
4. Eric Gordon, NOP
5. Ryan Anderson, NOP
6. Jrue Holliday, NOP
7. Chandler Parsons, HOU
8. Tyreke Evans, NOP
9. Omir Asik, HOU
10. Jeremy Lin, HOU
4 of the top 6 players on either team are Pelicans
HOU is definitely more top heavy, and their other players are good, but not quite as solid as the Pelicans. But because of the 2 frontline superstars, they are probably the slightly better team overall
quote:
lets rank the players
1. harden, HOU
2. howard, HOU
3. Anthony Davis, NOP
4. Eric Gordon, NOP
5. Chandler Parsons, HOU
6. Omir Asik, HOU
7. Tyreke Evans, NOP
8. Ryan Anderson, NOP
9. Jrue Holliday, NOP
10. Jeremy Lin, HOU
I tend to rate players on the 2 way scale, and if they do one particular thing at an elite level on side of the ball, does it marginalize the holes in a players game. For example, prime Nash being an elite shooter,distributor,etc vs. his below average D. Of course,injuries,fitness,bball IQ come into play as well
So I would rate them as follows
1.Harden
1a.Howard
3.Davis
4.Holiday
5.Asik(elite skill,mostly one way player
6.Anderson(near-elite skill,nearly a one way player)
7.Parsons(well rounded, doesn't take away much)
8.Gordon(injuries, not a distributor,overrated as a shooter)*
9.Evans(his decision making kills him)
10.Beverly
Rockets are deeper at PG,C have a vastly superior SF. PF is a question mark, but Rockets have several options there.
*a comeback season would probably vault Gordon into the 5-6 range.
Posted on 10/2/13 at 7:02 am to GatorsGators
quote:
Parsons
Yep, he's really come on to his own in HOU, really happy for the guy.
Posted on 10/5/13 at 9:58 pm to SpartyGator
pels >> rockets
#squadup
#squadup
Posted on 10/5/13 at 10:00 pm to SwaggerCopter
Do you remember the lakers hype?
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