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Posted on 11/18/12 at 6:44 pm to
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/18/12 at 6:44 pm to
Not even close.

Shouldn't you be out searching for a coach that knows football?

Ultimate Hog. Ultimate Dumb arse is more appropriate.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65761 posts
Posted on 11/18/12 at 6:48 pm to
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Not even close.



How is it not, who has Ohio State beat?

Michigan State? Last in their division.

Miami Ohio? Cal? UCF? UAB? Purdue? Indiana? Penn State? Illinois? fricking AWFUL. AWFUL.

Nebraska is about the only decent win, and they haven't beat anyone at all, and lost to UCLA in their one decent OOC game.

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Ultimate Hog. Ultimate Dumb arse is more appropriate.


Good one.
This post was edited on 11/18/12 at 6:55 pm
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/18/12 at 6:50 pm to
I still like how these OSU fans are trying to claim that the "top" of the SEC contains 6 fricking teams
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35473 posts
Posted on 11/18/12 at 7:13 pm to
The conversation was middle tier. Your criteria. Mississippi State falls into this tier and they have zero quality wins.

I like how you use supposition instead of fact. You spout out what you think would happen as fact when you have no basis in fact for your little theory.
Posted by Muahahaha
Ohio
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 11/18/12 at 7:35 pm to
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/18/12 at 8:32 pm to
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The conversation was middle tier. Your criteria. Mississippi State falls into this tier and they have zero quality wins.



Cool. Neither does GT and Wisconsin. Two teams who are going to their conference championships. Same with Rutgers and Louisville.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35473 posts
Posted on 11/18/12 at 8:57 pm to
Ah. So it's the ACC and Big Least now. I have no comeback for that one. They both suck overall.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 11/18/12 at 9:07 pm to
Wisconsin is in the acc? Can you read?
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35473 posts
Posted on 11/18/12 at 9:14 pm to
Wisconsin is in by default. You know they are the third place team in that division. Well, second if they win next Saturday.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31060 posts
Posted on 11/18/12 at 10:27 pm to
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We'd win every other conference in America with ease.



Chip Kelly would pecker slap most teams in the SEC.

Clearly, the problem with this debate is you retards cannot come up with a reasonable differentiation of quality in the SEC. What are the top, middle, and bottom teams?

Here is how I sorted them. Of course, Alabama should be the favorite against nearly everyone. The next five teams are all pretty impressive that may be able to beat any team. The other eight are pretty shitty and would have no chance at winning a major conference.

Elite:
Alabama

Very good (teams like this exist in most other major conferencs):
Georgia
Florida
LSU
Texas A&M
South Carolina

Mid tier:
Mississippi State
Vanderbilt

Mediocre at best:
Missouri
Ole Miss
Tennessee
Arkansas

shite stains:
Auburn
Kentucky
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
14743 posts
Posted on 11/18/12 at 10:44 pm to
quote:

Clearly, the problem with this debate is you retards cannot come up with a reasonable differentiation of quality in the SEC. What are the top, middle, and bottom teams?


Long-standing problem and a losing battle.

Never ending refrain:

"In the SEC"....(insert adjectives and accolades that apply MOSTLY just to LSU and Bama.)

"If you had to play in the SEC"...(I'd pick Georgia's schedule.)

"The SEC is a gauntlet"...(reality - one year we might play LSU, Florida, Auburn the next year we might play Tennessee, South Carolina and Alabama. But I'm going to pretend in this debate that we play them all - ever year...especially the ranked ones...and never play, Vandy, Kentucky, Ole Miss, Miss. State, Georgia Southern, Savannah State, the Citadel and Western Carolina.

"The SEC is a week in/week out grind" - 2012 schedule, grind SEC style:

Buffalo - bye
Mizzou - meh
Florida International - bye
Vanderbilt - meh
Tennessee - bye
South Carolina - here's the grind
Kentucky - bye
Florida - grind back on
Ole Miss - meh
Auburn - bye
Georgia Southern - bye
Georgia Tech - woo, finish line

Those two weeks on and 8 weeks off must have really took it out of Georgia.

Every conference has top teams that are good. SEC usually has the Top two of their conference be the best in the nation.

But the myth-making of the entire conference and "making it through the conference undefeated is impossible because it's so damn hard." That shite needs to stop from the talking heads. The garbage and middle tier of the SEC shouldn't get a free ride to greatness because they all cash the same checks with SEC written on them.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
23106 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 7:08 am to
This is how OSU wins the AP national title IMO.

Bama/UGA loser is out obviously
ND loses to USC, ND is out
FSU beats UF, UF is out
Oregon loses to State, they're out

FSU plays the SEC Champ in the NCG and wins...then OSU can win it...that is what it will take IMO
Posted by emoney
Westerville, OH
Member since May 2010
8642 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 7:13 am to
I have this great idea that tOSU might host a scrimmage against whatever team gets "slighted." That would be a fun game.
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