re: Will Luke Heimlich get drafted?

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because the main reason he did was he didnt want his neice to be put on stand have have to go through that with lawyers and everything

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so Heimlich would rather protect his niece from testifying than protect his freedom and being forever labeled as child molester?

Not sure I buy that. What I think happened is he had no good defense to beat the charges and took the plea to ensure he didn't serve time. Whether he is guilty or not...only two people know the answer to that. But his family not believing it isn't all that persuasive to me. Him denying it to protect his employability also isn't that persuasive to me. Of course he's going to try to mitigate this situation as much as possible now. He's already lost out on million he would have gotten a year ago and is hoping someone will believe him and give him a shot.

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Which makes me believe she's absolutely batshit since courts bend over backwards for mothers.

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all depends. She could have lost primary custody over something like alcoholism or a plethora of other reasons. Yes, mothers always have an inherent advantage in a custody litigation, but her not having custody doesn't mean she's crazy and that her daughter didn't tell her that. It's also a very unusual way to go about it. Why choose a 15 year old uncle as your target if this was a ploy to get her daughter back?

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The fact his parents beleive he didnt do it, and they told him to plead guilty at the request of his lawyer because of how impossible it is to beat a case like this (it is virtually impossible because the child cant be cross examined.)

I always thought by the way it was reported he truly admitted guilt and everyone accepted it. That is how the media made it seem


I had no clue he maintained his innocence to today, through all his counseling he maintained he didnt do it, and his parents, also the girls grandparents, maintain he didnt do it and they listend to their lawyers



And the fact the case was brought about because the ex wife of Heimlichs brother was the one that pushed it

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None of that convinces me he is innocent.

None of it outweighs the guilty plea, IMO.

It would be interesting to know the girl’s father’s (Luke’s brother) opinion on his guilt. Also whether or not he brings her around the grandparents (who according to you, accuse her of lying about this) and/or Luke.

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Him denying it at 16 years old through a psychologist/therapist in private multiple times after the case was over is persuasive to me


Maybe I am an idiot for that being persuasive to me, but it is

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Full disclosure, I am an attorney and had a very similar case. Had a client whose stepson (15 years old) was accused of touching my client's daughter (8 years old) inappropriately over a period of 6 months. Daughter said it happened, step son vehemently denied it to the DCS case workers and investigators. Both step-son and daughter were thought to be credible and honest by the case worker (and daughter by the judge, step-son's mom refused to let him testify). No charges were ever filed but the Judge implemented a restraining order on my client suspending his overnights with his own daughter and preventing the step-son from having any contact "out of an abundance of caution." I thought it was a bogus ruling as DCS found the allegations unfounded, but truth be told, no one really knows what happened except for the two children. These cases really suck, but someone denying something happened, regardless if it was to his therapist, does not mean anything honestly. Kids will lie and sometimes to the point that they begin believing their own lies. It's for this reason that Courts try everything they can to avoid having children testify given how unreliable their testimony can be. It just gets really delicate for everyone when you're dealing with sexual assault and it's really sad when a teenager is labeled as such. Hemlich's is much worse. he was actually charged with a crime, which tells me they had quite a bit of evidence against him or at least more than my client's stepson did. Obviously we'll never know the full extent given those records are sealed.

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His brother has a great relationship with his parents and still brings the niece around Luke himself as well


The said relationship with Luke is “strained”, but they still attend family parties togeher

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This is beginning to feel like you have a lot more than a casual interest in this case...

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This is beginning to feel like you have a lot more than a casual interest in this case...

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He denies it though.

He feels bad for railroading the guy last year so he's overcompensating now to show he's innocent.

I guess if you average both versions of 87 together, he's the middle man.

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Him denying it at 16 years old through a psychologist/therapist in private multiple times

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people lie all the time and people lie to therapists and psychologists all the time

polygraphs are also not a scientific means to getting answers and their results should really not be used one way or the other

The only real evidence we have is what a child has said and what Luke has said.

Everything else is circumstantial and while circumstantial evidence isn't inherently bad, the case for his innocence does seem rather weak

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He denies it though.

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I answered someones question





You are breathing out of your mouth very heavily today

Shocker, 87 being obtuse and stubborn.