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re: Will Cam sign with another team after this contract is up?
Posted on 7/18/14 at 4:02 pm to SerenityNow
Posted on 7/18/14 at 4:02 pm to SerenityNow
I see them regressing as well.
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 4:30 pm to boom roasted
I just hope he gets out of the NFC South...tired of pulling against him every game.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 4:38 pm to LL012697
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They were good this last year, much to the chagrin of Saints fans
They weren't good because of Newton, they were good because of their defense. The Panthers offense is horrendous. I realize that's not on Newton, but he is a middle of the pack quarterback that is often severely overrated. He's a sensational athlete, but only an average passer. There are several quarterbacks I'd take ahead of Cam.
Their front 7 will still be very good, unless Hardy has to miss a lot of games. Outside of that, they look terrible. I believe the Saints were better than them last season, and will most certainly be better this year barring any significant injuries. I say they go around 6-10 or 7-9, and with that, frustration will happen and he may very well want out of Carolina.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 4:46 pm to SerenityNow
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However, I can honestly say they do not scare me at all this year. While the D will certainly be good again, it's hard to take seriously an offense (as a poster above noted) that has two aging RB's, almost no credible (at this time) WR threat and a suspect O line.
that's the thing, though. this description is essentially what anyone could have said about our team last year and it managed to work out.
if J-Stew is able to play any amount of games this year unlike last, it will help a ton. our WR corp is basically the same level as last year, except we now have a the promise of a 6'5 rookie target in the redzone and an aging Cotchery who recorded more TDs than our top 2 WR last season
we lose a bit in our secondary, but I believe adding DeCoud, Harper, and Cason back there and getting a healthy Godfrey will perform just as well with arguably the best front 7 in football to help things out
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I'm not predicting an awful season, but I can certainly see slipping to 8-8 from winning the division last year.
that's completely reasonable. this new group may just not click and things may not fall the way they did last year and I can't really expect them too. but I'm holding out hope that this recipe is able to work wonders again in 2014
This post was edited on 7/18/14 at 4:48 pm
Posted on 7/18/14 at 4:46 pm to CocoLoco
They added Harper as their starting safety. Pretty excited about that
Posted on 7/19/14 at 8:53 am to CocoLoco
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I say they go around 6-10 or 7-9
Posted on 7/19/14 at 9:59 am to sms151t
The strength of the team is their defense.
If you look at his stats, he really didn't perform that much different last year. His passing AND rushing attempts were career lows.
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All Cam had to do last year (most of the time) was to not turn over the ball and put together a couple of good drives a game. The defense was that good.
So what do you really have in Cam? He's like a game manager type WITH the ability to pick up a couple of first downs a game with his legs and/or avoiding a sack due to his size.
How much is that worth? Honestly?
If you look at his stats, he really didn't perform that much different last year. His passing AND rushing attempts were career lows.
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All Cam had to do last year (most of the time) was to not turn over the ball and put together a couple of good drives a game. The defense was that good.
So what do you really have in Cam? He's like a game manager type WITH the ability to pick up a couple of first downs a game with his legs and/or avoiding a sack due to his size.
How much is that worth? Honestly?
This post was edited on 7/19/14 at 10:02 am
Posted on 7/19/14 at 10:00 am to TTsTowel
16 million is cheap for an above average to good QB these days in the NFL. You either pay it or plan to draft top 3 the next year.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 10:03 am to TTsTowel
What's so funny about that? Their secondary, o-line and receivers are all worse than last year.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 11:18 am to Patrick O Rly
What's funny is them going from 12 wins to 6.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 11:29 am to htran90
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They wont Franchise Cam he is not going to get paid 16.9 million by the Panthers.
You must REALLY not pay attention to the nfl
Shittier QBs are getting paid much more.
ETA: Kaep - 21mil, Ryan 20.75mil, Flacco 20.1mil, Cutler 18.1mil, Romo 18.0mil, Manning 16.25mil
I don't know about shittier since all of those guys have better credentials in some way - but there's no question Cam would be worth franchising and keeping if you are Carolina. They just won't be foolish enough to let him go and I think they'll start putting a couple more playmakers around him in the next draft or free agency.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 11:35 am to TTsTowel
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What's funny is them going from 12 wins to 6.
I'm not saying it's gonna happen, but it's not an outlandish thought.
Just Look at the Falcons last year.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 11:38 am to wildtigercat93
We also had a horrible defense, worst o-line in the NFL, no running game, and insane amount of injuries.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 11:40 am to htran90
Probably will end up at Minnesota or Oakland.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 12:16 pm to Patrick O Rly
Receivers: yes losing smith hurt but he wasn't a true 1 reciever anymore. I think while cotchery and avant are older they should be on par with the production Lafell gave last year. Ginn had a few big catches and hixon was really a non factor. So you replace that with two experienced vets, a high potential TALL reciever, along with a very underrated TE in Olson and the addition of Ed Dickson at TE their production should be at least on par with last year.
Offensive line the only loss was Gross at LT while that is a big hole to fill the rest of the line should be solid with the addition of Trai Turner and having Kahlil anchor the middle
The secondary has the potential to be improved. I like Cason better than Munnerlyn and we have a bunch of young promising corners. Also with Godfry coming back that can only help. I think DeCoud also adds quality at safety
Once we get out of salary cap hell with our running backs contracts we should have flexibility to sign Cam and a few quality FAs
Offensive line the only loss was Gross at LT while that is a big hole to fill the rest of the line should be solid with the addition of Trai Turner and having Kahlil anchor the middle
The secondary has the potential to be improved. I like Cason better than Munnerlyn and we have a bunch of young promising corners. Also with Godfry coming back that can only help. I think DeCoud also adds quality at safety
Once we get out of salary cap hell with our running backs contracts we should have flexibility to sign Cam and a few quality FAs
Posted on 7/19/14 at 12:45 pm to TTsTowel
You laugh, but what were their records during Cams first two seasons?
They aren't a good team outside of their front 7. Me predicting them going 7-9 is actually being fair.
They aren't a good team outside of their front 7. Me predicting them going 7-9 is actually being fair.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 1:06 pm to dawgfan24348
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We also had a horrible defense, worst o-line in the NFL, no running game, and insane amount of injuries.
I'm just saying 12 wins doesn't guarentee 6 the next year, or even 1.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:30 pm to sms151t
would love for him to come home to Atlanta but no way it will happen after the contract Ryan got a few years back
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:35 pm to Patrick O Rly
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So what do you really have in Cam? He's like a game manager type
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:43 pm to Tiger1242
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He'll stay, in a year or two the Panthers are going to be goooood much to the chagrin of Saints fans
based on what?
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