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re: Why isn't Bob Stoops ranked higher among college coaches?
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:42 pm to TigerBait2008
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:42 pm to TigerBait2008
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Top 5?
Better than Les.
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:42 pm to TexasTiger08
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Name one significant pro player that he has produced other than AP.
You have a point. Of course if only college success is measured in the amount of pro players you produce. BC Saban and Miles is crushing the NFL in all-pros.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:43 pm to TexasTiger08
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Name one significant pro player that he has produced other than AP. I'll wait...
Which has nothing to do with college football.
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Gundy is the best coach in that state.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:45 pm to TexasTiger08
Gerald McCoy is prlly the second or third best DT in the NFL behind Ngata and Atkins. Hes right on par with Justin Smith. That being said, anyone that would take Bob Stoops over Les Miles is out of there mind.
This post was edited on 5/12/14 at 10:46 pm
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:48 pm to dnm3305
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anyone that would take Bob Stoops over Les Miles is out of there mind.
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LSU Fan
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:49 pm to Korin
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Better than Les
Lolno
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:49 pm to dnm3305
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anyone that would take Bob Stoops over Les Miles is out of there mind.
I put Miles about even with Stoops. I don't think there is a right or wrong choice with either one.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:51 pm to chillygentilly
Has les won a BCS bowl other than the one in 2007?
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:53 pm to Ostrich
2007 and 2008
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:54 pm to TH03
Right, forgot about that Notre dame game. So he's won half as many BCS bowls as Stoops and has the same number of Titles
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:54 pm to Ostrich
2007 Sugar
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:55 pm to chillygentilly
His resume is certainly better than Miles. And while the situation Stoops came into included a talented roster, it was still not as good as the situation Miles stepped into
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:56 pm to Ostrich
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Right, forgot about that Notre dame game. So he's won half as many BCS bowls as Stoops and has the same number of Titles
And yet Bob could only muster a .500 record against him while he was at the vastly inferior Okie Lite
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:58 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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His resume is certainly better than Miles. And while the situation Stoops came into included a talented roster, it was still not as good as the situation Miles stepped into
This.
Plus, Stoops can't just stay in-state and field a competitive team like Miles can at LSU. Not to say LSU doesn't recruit nationally, because you do and do it well. But OU is like Tennessee in that it relys largely on it's neighbor to the south for players, plus we hit the West Coast pretty well, which has always astounded me.
Just on star-power in terms of recruiting though, LSU has killed us lately.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:00 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
BCS bowl games brings in ~14mil. Stoops has OU in a bunch more BCS bowl games than Miles.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:00 pm to SoonerMagic69
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Just on star-power in terms of recruiting though, LSU has killed us lately.
This is true, Miles is able to recruit better than Stoops. Despite that, OU has won two BCS bowls since the last time LSU won one.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:29 pm to Ostrich
This BCS bowl talk is dumb when comparing Miles and Stoops, considering the Stoops has played in a two-team conference for the last 10+ years.
Miles and Stoops are in the same tier of college coaches IMO. A case can be made for both.
Miles and Stoops are in the same tier of college coaches IMO. A case can be made for both.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:33 pm to Ostrich
OU doesn't have saban and bama in their conference, much less division.
jokes aside, stoops is very likely top 5, but there isn't a really good direct comparison to miles since his conference and division doesn't have a rival coach the likes of saban. it's much easier (easier than miles, not easy to win in general) for him win the conference and make it to a BCS bowl. that doesn't take away from his ability as a coach because you still have to win the games, plus he beat the hell out of saban this year. and I also think he would be just as successful as miles in the SEC while saban is still here.
and miles/stoops went 2-2 while miles was at lil bro
jokes aside, stoops is very likely top 5, but there isn't a really good direct comparison to miles since his conference and division doesn't have a rival coach the likes of saban. it's much easier (easier than miles, not easy to win in general) for him win the conference and make it to a BCS bowl. that doesn't take away from his ability as a coach because you still have to win the games, plus he beat the hell out of saban this year. and I also think he would be just as successful as miles in the SEC while saban is still here.
and miles/stoops went 2-2 while miles was at lil bro
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:35 pm to slackster
Nebraska had a shot one year, as did texas tech. okie state had a really good chance in 2011, and Texas had plenty of chances and a title. mizzou and Kansas were legit in 2007
hardly just a two team conference.
hardly just a two team conference.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:35 pm to chillygentilly
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Lolno
4 > 2 and Miles stepping in to a much better situation disagree, but okay.
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