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re: Why isn't AI more appreciated?

Posted on 2/20/13 at 3:52 pm to
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 2/20/13 at 3:52 pm to
ah, the old "ive been completely destroyed in a debate so I'll just make hyperbolic statements and post an emoticon to distract them" trick.

well done sir
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18990 posts
Posted on 2/20/13 at 3:52 pm to
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what's a field attempt?
and despite the all time high in mins. those years (the reason for the amount of shot attempts) his usage rating was lower than even his rookie year.

translation: He was on the court more and used less because the ball handler wound't get him the ball.


If you had common sense you would realize all this means is that those 76er teams were so incredible shitty thats the only reason Kover got all those minutes.
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
15680 posts
Posted on 2/20/13 at 3:53 pm to
I guess MSB will go on meltdown if AI gets into the HOF on the 1st ballot.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18990 posts
Posted on 2/20/13 at 3:55 pm to
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Pilot Tiger

I am convinced just started watching basketball in the last 5 years and have no clue how bad those teams were.

Oh and by the way Derrick Rose, Deron Williams, Andre Miller and Jeff Teague are all more selfish than Iverson for not getting super duper star scorer Kyle Korver more shots.
This post was edited on 2/20/13 at 3:58 pm
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73181 posts
Posted on 2/20/13 at 3:59 pm to
even better strategy, dig yourself even deeper by saying even stupider shite. brilliant
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72112 posts
Posted on 2/20/13 at 4:07 pm to
Iverson wasn't efficient, yet owns a career PER of 20.9 (would give him the 5th best PER of PGs this season). 9 seasons over 20.

Not to mention in his prime he was rattling off PERs of 22, 24, 23, 25, 20, 20, 21, 21.

The 2 best offensive options on the Finals team was Mutombo and Theo Ratliff

McKie, snow, lynch, hill played 30+mpg per game for Christs sake
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73181 posts
Posted on 2/20/13 at 4:43 pm to
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Not to mention in his prime he was rattling off PERs of 22, 24, 23, 25, 20, 20, 21, 21.
yea, he's so efficient he can average like 35 points a game and have a PER of like 22.

BRILLIANCE
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18990 posts
Posted on 2/20/13 at 4:48 pm to
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yea, he's so efficient he can average like 35 points a game and have a PER of like 22.

BRILLIANCE

God you are dumb
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73181 posts
Posted on 2/20/13 at 4:51 pm to
coming from arguably the biggest idiot on the MSB, I'll take that for what it's worth
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18990 posts
Posted on 2/20/13 at 4:59 pm to
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I am arguably the biggest idiot on the MSB, I'll keep on thinking that Matt Geiger is an offensive dynamo who Iverson MUST pass the ball to
Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
Member since Oct 2005
13302 posts
Posted on 2/20/13 at 5:27 pm to
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The 2 best offensive options on the Finals team was Mutombo and Theo Ratliff


Lets be clear, the Sixers could have had Chris Webber at the 4 and they weren't going to beat that Laker team.

Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72112 posts
Posted on 2/20/13 at 5:35 pm to
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yea, he's so efficient he can average like 35 points a game and have a PER of like 22.

BRILLIANCE


Do you know what PER is?


For the amount of shots AI took, his FG% is pretty respectable.

Guys like Russell Westbrook, Steph Curry, Brandon Jennings, Lillard, Deron Williams, Mike Conley etc all shoot at or below 43% as PGs this season.


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Lets be clear, the Sixers could have had Chris Webber at the 4 and they weren't going to beat that Laker team.


I know. Doesn't change what Iverson did for those teams. He put those teams on his back.
This post was edited on 2/20/13 at 5:37 pm
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
204308 posts
Posted on 2/20/13 at 5:36 pm to
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Why isn't AI more appreciated?


I loved Iverson. SHAQ even said he was the BEST Little man to ever play the game. Shaq said he was the toughest he ever faced.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
204308 posts
Posted on 2/20/13 at 5:37 pm to
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God you are dumb



quote:

VerlanderBEAST



Coming from YOU??????????


How ironic.
Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
Member since Oct 2005
13302 posts
Posted on 2/20/13 at 5:57 pm to
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I know. Doesn't change what Iverson did for those teams. He put those teams on his back.


Respectfully, I disagree. The Sixers front office let Iverson walk all over them early(and then brought LB into reel Iverson in)-especially since he was good for the gate in Philly. Instead of pairing him with another scorer (like the aforementioned Stackhouse) they decided since they can't fundamentally change the way he dominates the ball the team would be built around an incredible defense both on the wing and the interior.

Mutumbo was as good as rim protector there was and guys like Lynch,Snow and McKie made up for Iverson's deficiencies as defensive player. It took an incredible coaching effort by Larry Brown to have a roster of 11 guys to buy into only one guy touching the ball (practically). Iverson won the MVP that year because of the great team effort that reflected in their record. He never made anyone better, that team had veterans who knew their role. Shaq was clearly the MVP at the time, but the east coast media got on the Philly bandwagon early and there was a little fear that Shaq was going to roll off about 4 MVPs in a row.

This post was edited on 2/20/13 at 5:58 pm
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80548 posts
Posted on 2/20/13 at 5:58 pm to
i think people who know basketball appreciate AI

Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18990 posts
Posted on 2/20/13 at 5:58 pm to
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He never made anyone better,

Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
Member since Oct 2005
13302 posts
Posted on 2/20/13 at 6:05 pm to
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VerlanderBEAST



I guess the laughing is because you can't name any?

Since his teammates were so terrible according to you, how can you make an argument against that statement?

Again, your argument is toast.
This post was edited on 2/20/13 at 6:30 pm
Posted by GeauxWarrior12
Hammond
Member since Jan 2007
2804 posts
Posted on 2/20/13 at 7:28 pm to
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i think people who know basketball appreciate AI


I'm in the profession and every single coach I've talked to hates AI.
Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
Member since Oct 2005
13302 posts
Posted on 2/20/13 at 7:52 pm to
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I'm in the profession and every single coach I've talked to hates AI.



of course, the guy had no clue how to run a team.
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