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re: Why is Okie State only a 10-1/2 point favorite against Arizona
Posted on 9/6/12 at 9:29 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 9/6/12 at 9:29 am to SlowFlowPro
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a. last year. they have a new coach and offensive system this year. they have a new defensive system this year, coached by a really good DC. stoops did leave some talent out there. i'm not saying zona is a title contender, but they may make a huge jump this year via superior coaching
b. OSU lost some talent from last year. they went from a monster WR and 28 year old calming influence at QB to an unknown WR corps and a true freshman QB. that's called a drop
You know who else lost all of their offensive production from last year? Toledo. Remember them? I think they played Arizona recently. I'm sure the juggernaut known as Arizona worked them over without much difficulty.
Basically what we have here is a table with Free Money scattered all over it. You can either grab the Free Money off the table and go your merry way, or you can come up with a million stupid arse reasons why you shouldn't stuff those free legal tender notes in your pockets, and in your socks, and in your boxer briefs. Me? I'll be rubbing my nutsack with that Free Money. I can let you smell it if you'd like.
Don't ever research your way out of Free Money. Arizona sucks at football. Oklahoma State is good. Analysis over.
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Posted on 9/6/12 at 9:31 am to kkille1lsu
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Why did Vegas/Offshore have Bama (-11)? Betting trends.
Plus, they are a home underdog >7.
Are you lost? When did you last see your mommy?
Posted on 9/6/12 at 9:40 am to bobbyray21
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You know who else lost all of their offensive production from last year? Toledo.
they only put up 358 yards with an OT
that's not amazing or horrible
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Basically what we have here is a table with Free Money scattered all over it. You can either grab the Free Money off the table and go your merry way, or you can come up with a million stupid arse reasons why you shouldn't stuff those free legal tender notes in your pockets, and in your socks, and in your boxer briefs. Me? I'll be rubbing my nutsack with that Free Money. I can let you smell it if you'd like.
bro i hope this bet works out for you. i really do
Posted on 9/6/12 at 9:43 am to SlowFlowPro
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bro i hope this bet works out for you. i really do
I can't wait to rub my nutsack with it. Gonna feel gooood.
Posted on 9/6/12 at 9:43 am to inebr8ted tiger
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maybe Vegas knows something i don't.
yeah, they know how people bet and have a better gauge of team quality than avg fans
Posted on 9/6/12 at 9:46 am to H-Town Tiger
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yeah, they know how people bet and have a better gauge of team quality than avg fans
1. No they don't
2. And they don't even care
There are books about sportsbooks and how they're run. Perhaps there is one at your local library.
Posted on 9/6/12 at 9:47 am to SlowFlowPro
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SlowFlowPro
Are you taking Arizona?
Posted on 9/6/12 at 9:48 am to bobbyray21
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Are you taking Arizona?
no. i'm not touching this game with a 10 foot pole
Posted on 9/6/12 at 10:00 am to bobbyray21
Bobbyray please enlighten us how sportsbooks work.
Posted on 9/6/12 at 10:10 am to bobbyray21
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Are you lost? When did you last see your mommy?
What the frick are you talking about?
Posted on 9/6/12 at 10:12 am to kkille1lsu
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What the frick are you talking about?
one thing that's never smart is talking big shite about a bet and calling people idiots for being cautious
:pj:
Posted on 9/6/12 at 10:13 am to SlowFlowPro
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i'm not touching this game with a 10 foot pole
careful these are fighting words to teh MSB squares
Posted on 9/6/12 at 10:15 am to SlowFlowPro
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one thing that's never smart is talking big shite about a bet and calling people idiots for being cautious
Dude, if you're gonna talk shite to me, at least do it in direct response.
Posted on 9/6/12 at 10:15 am to rocket31
true freshman with no 1A game experience goes on the road, against a team with little film to study and a temporal advantage. LOCK IF I'VE EVER SEEN ONE!
Posted on 9/6/12 at 10:15 am to kkille1lsu
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What the frick are you talking about?
Exactly what I asked when I read your post. I had no idea how it related to the topic at hand. And I still don't.
Posted on 9/6/12 at 10:16 am to bobbyray21
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Dude, if you're gonna talk shite to me, at least do it in direct response.
i'm not talking shite about you
like i said, for your sake, i hope you're right. if you're not, there is a lot of ammo up in this bitch
Posted on 9/6/12 at 10:22 am to bobbyray21
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Last year, OkSt was about 17 orders of magnitude better than Arizona. The only way they lose enough to bring them down to 'zona's level this year is if there is a goddamn plane crash. And you can quote me on that.
Sticky this thread.
I'll laugh my arse off if Zona covers due to your cockiness about "knowing football."
You're all in on Okie State because of Savannah State and dogging a Pac 12 team with new blood and coach like they're Florida Atlantic.
The game is at Arizona and Toledo is a top 60 FBS team while Savannah belongs in Division II.
Vegas does know something; that you might be an idiot.
Posted on 9/6/12 at 10:22 am to JG77056
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Bobbyray please enlighten us how sportsbooks work.
I'm kinda busy today, but I'll get you pointed in the right direction.
1. Sportsbook are not in the business of gambling. What do they call the guy in poker rooms at casinos that comes by and takes a percentage of the pot for the house? Sportsbooks, ideally, are that guy. Now can they get even money on both sides all the time? Of course not. But they try to keep them reasonably balanced and this is why lines are moved. Usually it is a responsive to one or two feared "sharp" players. Sometimes it's public money. Either way, the guy running the sportsbook doesn't know any more about Teddy Bridgewater than me, you, your sister, or your mother. He knows that LVSC handed him a printout with an line that says Louisville-8.5. And so he posts that line and tweaks accordingly. When the book is doing a good job handicapping games, you won't see drastic line moves. But they aren't always good at handicapping games because, as I said, they don't know any more about Teddy Bridgewater than me, you, or your naughty naughty sister.
Make sense?
Now go read a book.
Posted on 9/6/12 at 10:24 am to bobbyray21
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Exactly what I asked when I read your post. I had no idea how it related to the topic at hand. And I still don't.
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maybe Vegas knows something i don't.
Vegas can have limited knowledge. It also places lines that increase bets. Bama wouldn't have been at (-11) if trends didn't place it at 11.
Arizona has home underdog by greater than 7 points. That number is going to influence bettors to take Zona. a 3-3 1/2 point drop. That is why we are not seeing a great increase and probably will not see a great increase in the spread.
Next time, try not to be a dick.
Posted on 9/6/12 at 10:25 am to Zamoro10
lord help bobbyray if zona pulls out a win 
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