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re: Why don't the Bengals cut ties with Shemir Stewart and just sign Hendrickson to a deal?
Posted on 7/24/25 at 3:35 pm to TackySweater
Posted on 7/24/25 at 3:35 pm to TackySweater
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So that’s the big sticking point then? Late hits? Ok get it amended. But his camp already said no to that publicly.
the sticking point is it being a vague and ambiguous provision. Saying you don't think the Bengals will enforce that provision based on certain conduct but will on other conduct is very naive and, again, up to one person's interpretation of what "conduct detrimental to the team" means. What might be conduct detrimental to one person may not be to another unless that type of conduct is defined within the contract so that everyone is clear on what exactly would be a basis to void his guarantees. This isn't a complicated issue. Yes, there are certain things everyone would agree would fall under that. No one would argue, for instance, that being caught on video beating the shite out of your girlfriend would be conduct detrimental to the team. But there are plenty of instances that fall in the grey area that would be completely open to interpretation. When employers put language like that in a contract, they are looking for a reason not to pay your guarantees, especially if you aren't performing on the field. And that's exactly why Stewart isn't signing the contract as is nor should he.
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Posted on 7/24/25 at 3:36 pm to lsufball19
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What might be conduct detrimental to one person may not be to another unless that type of conduct is defined within the contract so that everyone is clear on what exactly would be a basis to void his guarantees.
Ok. Let’s hear some examples of these ambiguous actions then. do you disagree that “shutting up and playing football” would be a good way to avoid any issues?
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But there are plenty of instances that fall in the grey area that would be completely open to interpretation
Like what?
This post was edited on 7/24/25 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 7/24/25 at 3:37 pm to TackySweater
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Except the clause doesn’t say “comments made” it says comments he makes
so if hes asked by the media about comments hes made in the past and it gets brought to light it cant be used against him via this clause? is that what you believe?
Posted on 7/24/25 at 3:39 pm to jiffyjohnson
quote:based on the clause, yea they have a defense and will win that as long as he doesn’t further expound on what he said. This isn’t hard lol
so if hes asked by the media about comments hes made in the past and it gets brought to light it cant be used against him via this clause?
Posted on 7/24/25 at 3:41 pm to TackySweater
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Let’s hear some examples
gave you plenty
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o you disagree that “shutting up and playing football” would be a good way to avoid issues?
probably
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o you disagree that “shutting up and playing football” would be a good way to avoid any issues?
well with the way its worded it kinda seems like the bengals can use whatever they like to justify not paying the man, which you of course understand because you wouldnt sign it yourself
This post was edited on 7/24/25 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 7/24/25 at 3:43 pm to lsufball19
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Yes, there are certain things everyone would agree would fall under that. No one would argue, for instance, that being caught on video beating the shite out of your girlfriend would be conduct detrimental to the team.
Which is already covered in every member of the PA’s personal conduct policy
Posted on 7/24/25 at 3:44 pm to jiffyjohnson
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gave you plenty
And I’ve pointed out that they are all dumb things, some REALLY dumb, to do as a pro athlete lol
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probably
Wait. You don’t agree with that? Wow I didn’t realize how lost you actually are lol
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well with the way its worded it kinda seems like the bengals can use whatever they like to justify not paying the man
Damn. You really ARE lost here lol. You should have left when you first tried to lol
Posted on 7/24/25 at 3:44 pm to TackySweater
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Like what?
The ones you listed where you “think” the Bengals wouldn’t invoke the provision is a good place to start
Posted on 7/24/25 at 3:45 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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The ones you listed where you “think” the Bengals wouldn’t invoke the provision is a good place to start
Which ones?
Those were stupid actions as well and easily avoided. But go on lol
This post was edited on 7/24/25 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 7/24/25 at 3:46 pm to TackySweater
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based on the clause, yea they have a defense and will win that as long as he doesn’t further expound on what he said
You definitely didn’t go to college, but I’m starting to question if you even finished high school
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This isn’t hard lol
It’s real hard for you evidently
Posted on 7/24/25 at 3:48 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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You definitely didn’t go to college, but I’m starting to question if you even finished high school
Says the guy who can’t determine the difference in tenses lol
Posted on 7/24/25 at 3:48 pm to TackySweater
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Which ones? Those were stupid actions as well and easily avoided. But go on lol
Calling your girlfriend a bitch is bad form, but it shouldn’t cost you or I or Stewart a job of money.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 3:49 pm to TackySweater
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Says the guy who can’t determine the difference in tenses lol
There’s actual attorneys in here telling you you’re wrong on this
Posted on 7/24/25 at 3:50 pm to TackySweater
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Damn. You really ARE lost here lol.
its funny cause you dont have anyone agreeing with you in here. just getting downvoted and your arguments are flowing past us like water around a stone.
youve conceded 3 times by admitting you wouldnt sign the clause yourself, saying they likely wouldnt enforce whats written in the clause that would save them millions, and recognizing it could be an on field infraction and that they should amend it.
do you work in the bengals front office?
Posted on 7/24/25 at 3:52 pm to jiffyjohnson
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do you work in the bengals front office?
Custodial staff
Posted on 7/24/25 at 3:55 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Calling your girlfriend a bitch is bad form, but it shouldn’t cost you or I or Stewart a job of money.
As a multi million dollar investment, you have to not be that dumb. Actions have consequences.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 3:56 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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There’s actual attorneys in here telling you you’re wrong on this
Ok lol
Posted on 7/24/25 at 3:56 pm to TackySweater
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As a multi million dollar investment, you have to not be that dumb. Actions have consequences.
An idiot and an Incel. YIKES
Posted on 7/24/25 at 3:57 pm to jiffyjohnson
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youve conceded 3 times by admitting you wouldnt sign the clause yourself,
No I didn’t lol
You’ve asked a question that’s not what we are taking about lol
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