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re: Why don't the Bengals cut ties with Shemir Stewart and just sign Hendrickson to a deal?
Posted on 7/25/25 at 12:47 pm to Pikes Peak Tiger
Posted on 7/25/25 at 12:47 pm to Pikes Peak Tiger
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Ok now just admit you have no idea what you are talking about
I mean. If they did have confidence, this would be a non issue lol. I’ll ask again: what’s so hard about just shutting up and playing football?
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Posted on 7/25/25 at 1:06 pm to lsufball19
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And you’re still avoiding the fact that you were wrong about Richardsona suspension.
I really wasn’t
I still wanna see his source that claims richardsom didn't miss the flight because his wife went into premature labor and he took her to the hospital.
In his mind the Colts weren't just trying to get out of money they owed a bust, they really were so disappointed that his wife went into early labor and he wasnt at the game to sit on the bench like he had done the 2 games before without getting a single carry
Posted on 7/25/25 at 1:14 pm to Corinthians420
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In his mind the Colts weren't just trying to get out of money they owed a bust, they really were so disappointed that his wife went into early labor and he wasnt at the game to sit on the bench like he had done the 2 games before without getting a single carry
oh it doesn't take a ton of common sense to figure out that's exactly what happened. I didn't even want to go there because obviously there's no actual proof of that, but it doesn't take a genius to figure out they were looking for reason not to have to pay a player they were about to cut. It would be nice if the result of his grievance filed by the NFLPA was available, but there isn't any public record of how that all played out.
But that type of thing is what Stewart's camp is worried about. If he lives up to his draft slot, they're not going to waive his guarantees outside something major. They're worried about him being a bust and the Bengals trying to find reasons to get out of paying his guarantees. A good way to do that is having overly broad and ambiguous language in that part of his contract.
All their owner has really said directly is he doesn't want to be paying players to sit in jail. If it was really that simple, the language would be tailored to criminal activity, but it's not.
This post was edited on 7/25/25 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 7/25/25 at 1:27 pm to Corinthians420
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still wanna see his source that claims richardsom didn't miss the flight because his wife went into premature labor and he took her to the hospital.
It’s in his post lol
Posted on 7/25/25 at 1:29 pm to lsufball19
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going to waive his guarantees outside something major. They're worried about him being a bust and the Bengals trying to find reasons to get out of paying his guarantees
There’s a precedent by the bengals of a very similar clause and guess what, the player shut his mouth, played ball and nothing was voided. See how easy that is? Lol
This post was edited on 7/25/25 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 7/25/25 at 1:33 pm to lsufball19
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But that type of thing is what Stewart's camp is worried about. If he lives up to his draft slot, they're not going to waive his guarantees outside something major. They're worried about him being a bust and the Bengals trying to find reasons to get out of paying his guarantees. A good way to do that is having overly broad and ambiguous language in that part of his contract.
Yep. I think that is obvious to everyone except tackysweater. The Bengals took a boom or bust prospect and want to have a get out of jail free clause in his contract if he doesn't pan out.
They are trying to have their cake and eat it too.
I do think Shemar wouldve already had it taken out if he picked a bigger agency. His small agency has no leverage because they dont have any players the Bengals will wanna sign in the future. If he was with an agency with a large client list they could say either remove it or we're sending all our clients somewhere else when free agency cokes around
This post was edited on 7/25/25 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 7/25/25 at 1:38 pm to Corinthians420
Ah. So now his camp is:
1)not confident that he won’t say it so stupid shite
And also:
2) not confident that he won’t suck
This dude definitely sounds like a bust already
Probably just bengals buyer remorse hoping he doesn’t even sign lol
1)not confident that he won’t say it so stupid shite
And also:
2) not confident that he won’t suck
This dude definitely sounds like a bust already
Probably just bengals buyer remorse hoping he doesn’t even sign lol
Posted on 7/25/25 at 1:38 pm to TackySweater
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There’s a precedent by the bengals of a very similar clause and guess what, the player shut his mouth, played ball and nothing was voided.
do you try to be as vague as humanly possible or are you incapable of ever being specific with any post you make? Why don't you state the player you're talking about and the actual language in the contract you're talking about. TIA
Posted on 7/25/25 at 1:39 pm to TackySweater
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This dude definitely sounds like a bust already
he had bust written all over him the day he was drafted. That was never really up for debate by anyone but the Bengals
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Probably just bengals buyer remorse hoping he doesn’t even sign lol
maybe you're finally starting to understand what most of us have all along
This post was edited on 7/25/25 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 7/25/25 at 1:41 pm to lsufball19
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maybe you're finally starting to understand what most of us have all along
You really struggle with comprehension lol
Posted on 7/25/25 at 1:42 pm to TackySweater
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Carson Palmer lol
ok, and what was the specific language in his contract you referenced
Posted on 7/25/25 at 1:43 pm to lsufball19
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maybe you're finally starting to understand what most of us have all along
no chance, this guys actually retarded, or just trolling at this point. types like a boomer as well.
Posted on 7/25/25 at 1:44 pm to lsufball19
Damn. You really are fricking incompetent and helpless lol
Posted on 7/25/25 at 1:47 pm to TackySweater
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Damn. You really are fricking incompetent and helpless lol
It wasn't a complicated question. What was the language in Carson Palmer's contract you say is similar to the language in Stewart's? It's not a loaded question.
This is how adults have conversations. If you can't answer the question, it's ok to say "I don't know"
Posted on 7/25/25 at 1:48 pm to lsufball19
17 pages and counting going on 3 days this is an all time performance
Posted on 7/25/25 at 1:50 pm to lsufball19
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The contract that Palmer signed with Cincinnati three days before the draft, a six-year deal that could be worth as much as $49 million according to NFL Players Association calculations, includes a loyalty clause Bengals officials have been negotiating into deals for the last few years. Under terms of the loyalty clause, Palmer could conceivably forfeit his entire signing bonus if he makes remarks critical of the Bengals during his first season with the team
Posted on 7/25/25 at 1:50 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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this is an all time performance
You ain’t lying. I still have no idea why this is so hard for people lol
Posted on 7/25/25 at 1:57 pm to TackySweater
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The contract that Palmer signed with Cincinnati three days before the draft, a six-year deal that could be worth as much as $49 million according to NFL Players Association calculations, includes a loyalty clause Bengals officials have been negotiating into deals for the last few years. Under terms of the loyalty clause, Palmer could conceivably forfeit his entire signing bonus if he makes remarks critical of the Bengals during his first season with the team
there you go. No that is not the same as what they're asking Stewart to sign.
That pertained only to public statements and only regarding statements made during his first year as a player, not any and all conduct throughout the duration of his contract. It was much more narrowly tailored to specific conduct and during a specific time period. That is the Pickens Clause. It's not the same or similar to what they're trying to do with Stewart's contract.
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Under terms of the loyalty clause, Palmer could conceivably forfeit his entire signing bonus if he makes remarks critical of the Bengals during his first season with the team. The penalty is prorated, annually reduced by one-sixth of the total signing bonus, for the subsequent seasons.
Given his well-measured responses to most media questions, and an inherent economy of words, it isn't likely that Palmer will ever have be penalized under terms of the clause. But if he is ever critical of the franchise, and team officials can document the incident, it would be a costly slip of the tongue.
The signing bonus addendum to the contract stipulates that Palmer return all or a portion of the signing bonus: ". . . if player makes any public comment to the media, including but not limited to the newspaper, magazines, television, radio or internet that breaches player's obligation of loyalty to the club, club coaches, or club management."
Posted on 7/25/25 at 2:08 pm to lsufball19
man that seems concise and well articulated as to what would be considered 'stupid shite' to do or say that would be used against him by the organization to recoup the money
its almost like stewarts contract is different somehow from that
its almost like stewarts contract is different somehow from that
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