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Why does the pro style offense work at Boise?
Posted on 10/28/11 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 10/28/11 at 1:00 pm
You always hear people say that only the Bama's, LSU's etc. can get away with running run heavy, TE/FB-full offenses because of the sheer talent and size they can attract, particularly on the lines.
Boise has risen to prominence using a pro style offense. Sure, there are the gadget plays, though they are hardly used now and were only used maybe 3-4 times a game during Boise's peak. For a decade now, they have lined up and smashed people in the face, along with a great play action game.
While I'm sure they are outrecruiting the Wyoming's and Utah State's of the world, they certainly aren't outrecruiting Georgia, Oregon, VT, and so many others. This is still a team full of 2 and 3 star kids.
So what's the secret? How did this team get so far running an offense that for so many countless other college teams (particularly at the non-BCS level) has been ineffective at the college level? Why can't other teams duplicate this?
Boise has risen to prominence using a pro style offense. Sure, there are the gadget plays, though they are hardly used now and were only used maybe 3-4 times a game during Boise's peak. For a decade now, they have lined up and smashed people in the face, along with a great play action game.
While I'm sure they are outrecruiting the Wyoming's and Utah State's of the world, they certainly aren't outrecruiting Georgia, Oregon, VT, and so many others. This is still a team full of 2 and 3 star kids.
So what's the secret? How did this team get so far running an offense that for so many countless other college teams (particularly at the non-BCS level) has been ineffective at the college level? Why can't other teams duplicate this?
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Posted on 10/28/11 at 1:00 pm to Broseph Barksdale
Look at the competition.
Posted on 10/28/11 at 1:01 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
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Look at the competition.
Exactly. I am. They smashed UGA square in the jaw with 2 star linemen to open this season. They did the same to VT.
How?
Posted on 10/28/11 at 1:06 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
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Look at the competition.
The only answer to any question involving Boise. BTW ignore the Georgia arse whipping.
Posted on 10/28/11 at 1:11 pm to bomber77
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The only answer to any question involving Boise. BTW ignore the Georgia arse whipping.
Why should it be ignored?
And if its simply a matter of competition...there are 70ish teams playing at the non-BCS level, and most of their games are against other teams at that level. Why can't they do it? 99% of the time, if a non-BCS team has a string of successful seasons its because of some kind of bullshite gimmick offense (see: Hawaii, Houston). Boise has done it for ten years with zero gimmicks. And its the ONLY team that's been able to do it. How?
Posted on 10/28/11 at 1:12 pm to Broseph Barksdale
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Why should it be ignored?
SARC METER
Posted on 10/28/11 at 1:14 pm to Broseph Barksdale
Ignore any Boise win where they physically dominant bigger schools.
Official MSB party line:
Boise's all trickeration and shitty schedule.
Official MSB party line:
Boise's all trickeration and shitty schedule.
Posted on 10/28/11 at 1:14 pm to bomber77
Who says the only reason LSU Bama are successful at the Iform just because of the sheer size and talent?
Posted on 10/28/11 at 1:14 pm to bomber77
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Look at the competition.
The only answer to any question involving Boise. BTW ignore the Georgia arse whipping.
Boise has fared OK vs good competition. No one has shut them down. They have beaten OU, Oregon, VT, UGA. They have done ok with inferior talent when they have played BCS level teams.
This post was edited on 10/28/11 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 10/28/11 at 1:15 pm to bomber77
Georgia is a mid tier SEC team
They might win the East because of how down the east is this year. But they're not on the same level as the western powers
They might win the East because of how down the east is this year. But they're not on the same level as the western powers
Posted on 10/28/11 at 1:19 pm to Broseph Barksdale
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Why does the pro style offense work at Boise?
execution. Football plays aren't rocket science. If everyone does what they are supposed to, almost any play can work.
Posted on 10/28/11 at 1:20 pm to Powerman
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Georgia is a mid tier SEC team
They might win the East because of how down the east is this year. But they're not on the same level as the western powers
I agree. But you just don't see an SEC team get destroyed physically like that by a team full of 2 star players. I mean, Ole Miss beat Fresno this year in Fresno based sheerly on size and power, and Ole Miss is awful.
How can Boise play the smash mouth game and win against the big boys, while in the history of modern college football no other small time team has been able to do it without major gimmick offenses? Boise's center is 5'11, and they kill people up front?!
Posted on 10/28/11 at 1:23 pm to Broseph Barksdale
they keys to a pro-style attack are as follows
1. good QB
2. good OL
BSU has had both
1. good QB
2. good OL
BSU has had both
Posted on 10/28/11 at 1:24 pm to SlowFlowPro
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they keys to a pro-style attack are as follows
1. good QB
2. good OL
BSU has had both
I dunno man. Moore and Dinwiddie yes, but Zabranksy wasn't anything special. Of course he had Clady, so the OL was a little stronger during his time as well.
Posted on 10/28/11 at 1:25 pm to Broseph Barksdale
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How can Boise play the smash mouth game and win against the big boys,
they don't play "smash mouth" offense
and they started to pull away from UGA when they went to an offense of passing, b/c their run wasn't doing much early
BSU has always based their running game and passing game on having faster players (for their competition)
Posted on 10/28/11 at 1:26 pm to Broseph Barksdale
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but Zabranksy wasn't anything special.
he developed by 2006 into a good QB
i don't think they beat anybody of note until OU, and big Z wasn't exactly great
Posted on 10/28/11 at 1:27 pm to SlowFlowPro
I have to disagree. They were knocking VT five yards off the ball for the first 3 quarters of that game. Ditto Oregon. UGA did better than most against Boise's run game, but generally speaking they are very much a run->run->PA team.
Posted on 10/28/11 at 1:29 pm to Broseph Barksdale
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They were knocking VT five yards off the ball for the first 3 quarters of that game.
dude BSU jumped out to a big lead in the 1st and then were dominated the remaining 3 quarters. they got 2 bullshite personal fouls to help them get in position to win at the end
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Ditto Oregon.
UO's OL was a mess that game, and i don't think anybody is hyping the UO OL/DL in terms of BCS teams
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but generally speaking they are very much a run->run->PA team.
yes, but they weren't against UGA. they went from run run pass to pass pass pass pass pass
Posted on 10/28/11 at 1:35 pm to Broseph Barksdale
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Why should it be ignored?
it shouldn't be "ignored", but its not the only thing that matters. When did we get to the point where we only judge teams based on who they play? Geno Smith trhew for 400+ on LSU, one of the best D's in CFB. Do you think he should go for 700+ against Big East weaker competition?
Posted on 10/28/11 at 1:39 pm to Broseph Barksdale
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Sure, there are the gadget plays, though they are hardly used now and were only used maybe 3-4 times a game during Boise's peak
Vastly more than that.. And like the first response - competition.
But most importantly a good coach who knows what to take advantage of given time to prepare (every hard team he's faced) and excellent execution by the players.
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