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re: why do soccer matches keep going after the time limit?

Posted on 6/27/10 at 12:36 pm to
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
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Posted on 6/27/10 at 12:36 pm to
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no not exactly, that's true.

but seriously ive been playing and watching soccer for like 13 years and it has never actually been a problem in any game ive ever seen. if it prohibits people from enjoying the game, they're just trying too hard.

That alone doesn't prohibit people from watching but why not fix it. It would make the game better. Why don't you want to perfect your system. The sport needs to evolve in some areas especially injury treatment. That spray im sure does so much (I don't know if that is just an africa thing or not).
Posted by LSUMafia
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 6/27/10 at 1:02 pm to
why are people still bitching about this. The US got 3 minutes back for excessive time wasting in the form of injury time.

The ref did a fine job accounting for it. Injuries are a part of the game. Goals and celebrations are a part of the game, etc. If you take excessive time, its added on through injury time.

In American football, the clock runs in between plays, and you get MAYBE 12 minutes of actual action if your lucky.

In basketball its around 30-40 minutes of action, but with timeouts.

Don't get me started on baseball.

In soccer you get 70+ minutes of actual action going on, and that's not including games that go to OT. If you need exact times, that's your issue. Most people that have played soccer understand it and really don't care. You adjust to it, and I honestly prefer it how it is.
Posted by Jeeves
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 6/27/10 at 1:07 pm to
How do you waste playing time in baseball? You have to get a set 27 outs.

You can waste time getting the bullpen ready or to throw off the pitcher's rhythm, but you can't waste the "game clock" per se.
Posted by LSUMafia
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 6/27/10 at 1:17 pm to
My point is actual time where the ball is in play in those sports. People are bitching about exact times and crap, when soccer still has more time with the ball actually in play than any sport.

Time wasting is accounted for, but hell in football when you kneel the ball or stay down a few extra seconds on a guy, you don't see people claiming the sport is flawed. Just like in that sport, soccer can penalize teams in multiple ways for excessive time wasting with cards and injury time.
Posted by TGHub
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 6/27/10 at 1:25 pm to
I'm not a soccer fan and I was wondering the same question. When i got the answer it was good enough for me. Seemingly the only people who want to "fix" this rule are people who don't play soccer or don't watch soccer other than the World Cup. Why would you change your rules for people who aren't going to watch anyway except for maybe 4 yrs from now?
This post was edited on 6/27/10 at 1:27 pm
Posted by DollaChoppa
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/27/10 at 1:26 pm to
Estimated time added to offset delays, injuries, etc. Hence "stoppage time" or "additional time"
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 6/27/10 at 1:27 pm to
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My point is actual time where the ball is in play in those sports. People are bitching about exact times and crap, when soccer still has more time with the ball actually in play than any sport.

It shouldn't matter what other sports are like. If you can improve soccer with more exact time with an easy solution like stopping the clock when the ball is not in play why not do it. In football you can be penalized to with delay of game penalties. I'm sry but injury time in soccer is the biggest joke and the time in injury time can be wasted with flopping and the same bs
Posted by LSUMafia
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 6/27/10 at 1:29 pm to
Agreed TGHub. They are bitching about exact times. You know as a player/coach/fan, that when they release the amount of injury time, every coach and player on the pitch can see it. You can also get a feel for how much time is left. If you're a noob, its okay to be confused, but some of those bitching on here about it have claimed to be players of the sport for years, yet can't understand it.
Posted by LSUMafia
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 6/27/10 at 1:30 pm to
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I'm sry but injury time in soccer is the biggest joke and the time in injury time can be wasted with flopping and the same bs


Genius, the refs add time during injury time if players waste it excessively. Plain and simple.
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
11447 posts
Posted on 6/27/10 at 1:31 pm to
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Agreed TGHub. They are bitching about exact times. You know as a player/coach/fan, that when they release the amount of injury time, every coach and player on the pitch can see it. You can also get a feel for how much time is left. If you're a noob, its okay to be confused, but some of those bitching on here about it have claimed to be players of the sport for years, yet can't understand it.

Then I'm glad to be a noob in soccer.
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 6/27/10 at 1:33 pm to
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Genius, the refs add time during injury time if players waste it excessively. Plain and simple.

I'm gone and done arguing about this point.
Posted by LSUMafia
Member since May 2005
9862 posts
Posted on 6/27/10 at 1:35 pm to
My point is being able to sense how much time is added. If you stopped the clock on every potential stoppage, the games would be too long, particularly for players having to go into OT.

If you watched the US game yesterday, you saw that in OT, US players were just gassed to start OT. It's moving around for 90 minutes straight in regulation with only 1 break.

Soccer definitely has some areas it needs to be fixed, don't get me wrong, but getting exact seconds down isn't one of them.
Posted by Tigerbait337
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Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 6/27/10 at 1:42 pm to
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In soccer you get 70+ minutes of actual action going on, and that's not including games that go to OT. If you need exact times, that's your issue.


70+ minutes of action? You mean keep away? Kicking it back and forth from your mid field to your defenders, then to youre goalie if your in threat of getting pursued?
This post was edited on 6/27/10 at 1:45 pm
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 6/27/10 at 1:44 pm to
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My point is being able to sense how much time is added. If you stopped the clock on every potential stoppage, the games would be too long, particularly for players having to go into OT.

If you watched the US game yesterday, you saw that in OT, US players were just gassed to start OT. It's moving around for 90 minutes straight in regulation with only 1 break.

Soccer definitely has some areas it needs to be fixed, don't get me wrong, but getting exact seconds down isn't one of them.

I'll agree to disagree on the time stoppage stuff. It's just watching a game where Ghana was doing everything in its power to burn the clock and delay the game with fake injuries and substitutions. I'm sure this happens in most games. On another note though do you believe soccer isn't a main focus on tv in the U.S because of the very little commercial time the tv station can have? Tv stations really only get halftime to show commercials and they have to have some sort of halftime show for the soccer game.
Posted by LSUMafia
Member since May 2005
9862 posts
Posted on 6/27/10 at 1:58 pm to
In the US its just not as big a sport for one reason or another. People are raised to love football, basketball, and for some baseball.

All are American sports. As for advertising, it usually is done in soccer games with little ads at the top of the screen off the time/score logo. It may be a reason, but I think its just a demographic thing. More people like football, basketball, and baseball than soccer. They have connections to those teams, and since a soccer league here doesn't have that connection.
Posted by parks
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 6/27/10 at 2:02 pm to
To make up for time lost during injuries and other delays
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 6/27/10 at 2:09 pm to
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In American football, the clock runs in between plays, and you get MAYBE 12 minutes of actual action if your lucky.


Oh how we forget about the play clock...
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In basketball its around 30-40 minutes of action, but with timeouts.

And the shot clock...
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Don't get me started on baseball.

Since when did the game not have 27 outs?

Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 6/27/10 at 2:11 pm to
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My point is being able to sense how much time is added. If you stopped the clock on every potential stoppage, the games would be too long, particularly for players having to go into OT.


Then allow more than 3 subs. Have it controlled in a manner similar to lacrosse.

Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 6/27/10 at 2:13 pm to
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Genius, the refs add time during injury time if players waste it excessively.


And if you run it to the exact time, then its fair for everyone. Again, its up to ONE person's discretion to "about" how much time is left.
Posted by LSUMafia
Member since May 2005
9862 posts
Posted on 6/27/10 at 2:33 pm to
And how do you know it wasn't the exact time? You can bitch all you want, but resets after every foul don't lead to injury time. It's not supposed too. You punish excessive time wasting.

You still butt hurt the ref didn't give the US exactly 3 minutes and instead like 2:52? seriously? The official on the sidelines gives a rounded number of what the official has notified him, and the ref uses his exact time for the most part. If there is a MAJOR offensive play going on, he lets it play out (kind of like in American football if the ball is snapped before the clock expires

Are you really that butthurt that the US lost to the better team yesterday? They did flop towards the end, but got basically 3 extra minutes to account for it. US didn't use it.

In basketball, teams play keep away to run down the shot clock when they have bigger leads. 1 goal in soccer can be seen in that way. It's just that one play counts like 10+ points would be in basketball.
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