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Why are the # of free throws taken by the Lakers in game 6 of the 02 WCF always
Posted on 6/5/15 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 6/5/15 at 1:52 pm
Why are the # of free throws taken by the Lakers in game 6 of the 02 WCF always brought up, (they took 40 compared to 25 for the Kings), in regards to games being fixed, but rarely is game 7 of the 1993 WC Finals mentioned when it was a much worse case and it actually decided that 93 series. Remember, even after game 6 of the 2002 WC Finals, there still was a game 7 to be played.
For those that dont remember, the 1993 Western Conference Finals had Seattle facing off against Charles Barkley and the Phoenix Suns. The league desperately wanted a Barkley/MJ matchup in the Finals over a Seattle/Chicago matchup.
In that game, Seattle attempted 36 free throws, while the Suns attempted SIXTY-FOUR. Seattle lost by 13. Those extra 28 free throws really came in handy for the Suns that game.
That is a worse travesty than the 2002 Conference Finals. At least the Kings had another shot to knock the Lakers off. The Reign Man and The Glove were screwed over royally by the NBA, Dick Bavetta, & his crew
For those that dont remember, the 1993 Western Conference Finals had Seattle facing off against Charles Barkley and the Phoenix Suns. The league desperately wanted a Barkley/MJ matchup in the Finals over a Seattle/Chicago matchup.
In that game, Seattle attempted 36 free throws, while the Suns attempted SIXTY-FOUR. Seattle lost by 13. Those extra 28 free throws really came in handy for the Suns that game.
That is a worse travesty than the 2002 Conference Finals. At least the Kings had another shot to knock the Lakers off. The Reign Man and The Glove were screwed over royally by the NBA, Dick Bavetta, & his crew
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Posted on 6/5/15 at 1:54 pm to SPEEDY
BTW, Barkley was huge in that game.
44 points and 24 rebounds, 10 of which were offensive boards
44 points and 24 rebounds, 10 of which were offensive boards
Posted on 6/5/15 at 1:57 pm to SPEEDY
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Why are the # of free throws taken by the Lakers in game 6 of the 02 WCF always brought up, (they took 40 compared to 25 for the Kings), in regards to games being fixed, but rarely is game 7 of the 1993 WC Finals mentioned when it was a much worse case and it actually decided that 93 series. Remember, even after game 6 of the 2002 WC Finals, there still was a game 7 to be played.
For those that dont remember, the 1993 Western Conference Finals had Seattle facing off against Charles Barkley and the Phoenix Suns. The league desperately wanted a Barkley/MJ matchup in the Finals over a Seattle/Chicago matchup.
...also don't forget that the Bucks were screwed in 01 ECF against Philly and the MVP.
Posted on 6/5/15 at 2:42 pm to SPEEDY
Because the Lakers shot 27 free throws in the fourth quarter. The free throw differential going into the 4th was 18 fta for the Kings, and 13 for the Lakers.
The Lakers scored 31 points in the 4th... they only scored 10 points from made field goals. 21 of their points came from free throws.
If the Lakers shot 27 free throws per quarter, they would have shot 108 free throws that game. 27 free throws in a quarter is an insane number.
And it wasn't just foul calls. It was bad calls that led to the Lakers getting the ball.
The Washington Post sports columnist Michael Wilbon responded to the calls in Game 6: "I wrote down in my notebook six calls that were stunningly incorrect, all against Sacramento, all in the fourth quarter when the Lakers made five baskets and 21 foul shots to hold on to their championship." For example, Wilbon pointed out that Kobe Bryant did not get a foul call after elbowing Mike Bibby in front of an official.
Plus Tim Donaghy (former referee) said it was rigged. So that adds fuel to the fire.
The Lakers scored 31 points in the 4th... they only scored 10 points from made field goals. 21 of their points came from free throws.
If the Lakers shot 27 free throws per quarter, they would have shot 108 free throws that game. 27 free throws in a quarter is an insane number.
And it wasn't just foul calls. It was bad calls that led to the Lakers getting the ball.
The Washington Post sports columnist Michael Wilbon responded to the calls in Game 6: "I wrote down in my notebook six calls that were stunningly incorrect, all against Sacramento, all in the fourth quarter when the Lakers made five baskets and 21 foul shots to hold on to their championship." For example, Wilbon pointed out that Kobe Bryant did not get a foul call after elbowing Mike Bibby in front of an official.
Plus Tim Donaghy (former referee) said it was rigged. So that adds fuel to the fire.
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Posted on 6/5/15 at 2:46 pm to PrimeTime Money
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Because the Lakers shot 27 free throws in the fourth quarter. The free throw differential going into the 4th was 18 fta for the Kings, and 13 for the Lakers.
The Lakers scored 31 points in the 4th... they only scored 10 points from made field goals. 21 of their points came from free throws.
If the Lakers shot 27 free throws per quarter, they would have shot 108 free throws that game. 27 free throws in a quarter is an insane number.
And it wasn't just foul calls. It was bad calls that led to the Lakers getting the ball.
all of this
Posted on 6/5/15 at 2:49 pm to SPEEDY
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Why are the # of free throws taken by the Lakers in game 6 of the 02 WCF always brought up
Because the Lakers took 27 free throw attempts in the 4th quarter alone.
And former NBA referee Tim Donaghy filed in court papers in 2008 said that Game 6 was fixed by the NBA.
Why is this even a question?
Posted on 6/5/15 at 3:14 pm to The 25 Jersey
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Because the Lakers took 27 free throw attempts in the 4th quarter alone.
If Seattle was given every single one of those 27 free throw attempts in the 4th Quarter, the Suns still would have attempted more FTs in that game
Seattle's fricking wasn't just regulated to one quarter. It was a complete 4 quarter arse raping by the refs
Posted on 6/5/15 at 3:21 pm to RonBurgundy
quote:Yep. Ray Allen called the League out and tried taking it in his own hands.
the Bucks were screwed in 01 ECF against Philly and the MVP.
Posted on 6/5/15 at 3:21 pm to SPEEDY
It doesn't help your argument that Phoenix outscored Seattle in every quarter - by 5, 1, 5, and 2.
The Lakers and Kings were tied going into the 4th, and LA proceeded to shoot 27 free throws.
The game was fixed from the moment the Nets beat the Celtics slightly earlier that night.
The NBA wanted nothing to do with a Kings-Nets NBA Finals, and they made sure it wasn't going to happen.
Look, no one is going to take away the trophy from the Lakers, so enjoy it, but you're disingenuous if you think that game wasn't fixed.
The Lakers and Kings were tied going into the 4th, and LA proceeded to shoot 27 free throws.
The game was fixed from the moment the Nets beat the Celtics slightly earlier that night.
The NBA wanted nothing to do with a Kings-Nets NBA Finals, and they made sure it wasn't going to happen.
Look, no one is going to take away the trophy from the Lakers, so enjoy it, but you're disingenuous if you think that game wasn't fixed.
Posted on 6/5/15 at 3:44 pm to PrimeTime Money
The Donaghy allegations are 100% meaningless.
He was week's away from sentencing on felony convictions and facing a $1M lawsuit.
He had weeks to prove he was cooperating with the Feds investigation against the nba. He made multiple allegations at that time that he had never made before to try and save his arse.
He was week's away from sentencing on felony convictions and facing a $1M lawsuit.
He had weeks to prove he was cooperating with the Feds investigation against the nba. He made multiple allegations at that time that he had never made before to try and save his arse.
Posted on 6/5/15 at 3:44 pm to SPEEDY
Keep denying it... keep your head in the sand... NBA playoffs were scripted under Stern. In fact his legacy still lives on as we are still following his script(his final act was to have Heat lose in 2014, get LeBron to Cleveland with a bunch of #1 draft picks, have them lose the finals in 2015, and win it all in 2016). Silver hasn't had an input yet
Posted on 6/5/15 at 3:45 pm to SPEEDY
thats not even it, i just dont get why people just like to forget that sacramento blew a game 7 at home AND a 24 point lead in game 4
Posted on 6/5/15 at 3:55 pm to goldennugget
If anyone is interest in an objective analysis of the calls in that Game 6, follow link.
LINK
If you don't care and just want to have an opinion without real information, dont.
LINK
If you don't care and just want to have an opinion without real information, dont.
Posted on 6/5/15 at 4:16 pm to SPEEDY
nba on nbc 
Posted on 6/5/15 at 4:42 pm to SPEEDY
What about the game three of the same series? People forget that both teams were complaining the whole series about the refs inconsistency with both teams having lop sided FT disparities at some point. I wouldn't say the series was fixed for LA to win, but I could get behind someone saying the games were influenced to force a game 7 with both teams benefiting at one point.
Posted on 6/5/15 at 5:19 pm to LittleRockHog501
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What about the game three of the same series? People forget that both teams were complaining the whole series about the refs inconsistency with both teams having lop sided FT disparities at some point. I wouldn't say the series was fixed for LA to win, but I could get behind someone saying the games were influenced to force a game 7 with both teams benefiti
What about the fact that Barkley and MJ filmed a NBA Finals TV commercial 3 weeks BEFORE the Finals? Seems like the NBA has the teams already selected and needed a little help in that 7th game to make sure their agenda was filled
Posted on 6/5/15 at 5:22 pm to slackster
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doesn't help your argument that Phoenix outscored Seattle in every quarter - by 5, 1, 5, and 2.
I would hope Phoenix was leading after every quarter. They were averaging 16 free throws a quarter. They should have been leading by more
Posted on 6/5/15 at 6:02 pm to The 25 Jersey
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Because the Lakers took 27 free throw attempts in the 4th quarter alone.
And former NBA referee Tim Donaghy filed in court papers in 2008 said that Game 6 was fixed by the NBA.
Why is this even a question?
People fail to realize that the Kings shot 204 FT's to the Lakers' 185 for the series. Take away that quarter, and Sacramento shoots 37 more free-throws than the Lakers (this doesn't include the fact that the Kings committed intentional fouls at the end of games one and seven, and the fouls they were giving to Shaq). In the three wins for Sacramento, they had a double-digit FT advantage; in the four wins for the Lakers, they had a double-digit advantage, only once....in game 6. The officiating was just as bad in game 5; the only difference is, one screw job was confined to a quarter, while the other was spread out over the course of the game. Sacramento got cheated in game six; Lakers got cheated in game five. Sac got cheated (this was before replay) by a Samaki three at the buzzer (halftime) in game four, but they had a 24-point lead, so they lost it for themselves.
Who can forget Kobe getting food poisoning (in Sacramento)after owning the Kings in Game one?
Posted on 6/5/15 at 6:07 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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If anyone is interest in an objective analysis of the calls in that Game 6, follow link.
LINK
If you don't care and just want to have an opinion without real information, dont
I'm not going to deny that game six was some BS; Kings got screwed. The Kings did foul Shaq a few times before he could get a dunk; he was dominating like he did in game 5, before he was hosed by the refs. Of course the league wanted a game seven. If they really wanted to fix the series, why did the refs call a BS foul on Kobe guarding Bibby 30 feet from the basket with a few seconds left in game seven (regulation)? It was 27-9; I believe some were implying that it was 27-0. Honestly, until the fourth quarter, I thought that the Kings were getting the calls.
Posted on 6/5/15 at 6:36 pm to littleavery1948
Yeah, that series was wild, one of the best ever.
I got curious a while back and did some research. That article I linked is as good ad it gets. Both teams got screwed at different points in the series but it is extremely doubtful there was any conspiracy. The most telling facts are in the final minute of that game 6, the refs screwed the lakers on a bad call that sent the kings to the line with 20 seconds left to pull within 1 point. If the ref does not make that call, Fox'so layup gives the lakers a 5 point lead. Instead the questionable call makes it a 1 point game with 20 seconds to go, after which no fouls were called at all (the 3 intentionals obviously do not count though they scew the numbers to make it look like the lakers got 3 more calls).
That breakdown of every call, who made the call, the timing of the call and possession by possession breakdown of the final 6 minutes of that game should convince a reasonable person with no preconceptions coming in.
I got curious a while back and did some research. That article I linked is as good ad it gets. Both teams got screwed at different points in the series but it is extremely doubtful there was any conspiracy. The most telling facts are in the final minute of that game 6, the refs screwed the lakers on a bad call that sent the kings to the line with 20 seconds left to pull within 1 point. If the ref does not make that call, Fox'so layup gives the lakers a 5 point lead. Instead the questionable call makes it a 1 point game with 20 seconds to go, after which no fouls were called at all (the 3 intentionals obviously do not count though they scew the numbers to make it look like the lakers got 3 more calls).
That breakdown of every call, who made the call, the timing of the call and possession by possession breakdown of the final 6 minutes of that game should convince a reasonable person with no preconceptions coming in.
This post was edited on 6/5/15 at 6:42 pm
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