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re: Why are people acting like Adrian Peterson was punching his son in the face?

Posted on 9/15/14 at 5:00 pm to
Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
13161 posts
Posted on 9/15/14 at 5:00 pm to
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Posted by PrimeTime Money quote: A black eye isn't serious. Just a bruise. Does that make it ok what ray rice did? Punching somebody in the face is dangerous because it could potentially cause many serious injuries which are unpredictable. The act of whipping somebody with a thin tree branch on their backside can only cause a limited amount of injury to the extent of the force used.


First of all, he hit his 4 year old's scrotum with the switch. Not just his backside. You're ok with that?
Second, if you think you need a fricking weapon (essentially) and your hand isn't enough for a 4 year old, then you shouldn't have children.

The punishment was too severe for a 4 year old. How can you not understand that. I think most people agree that if it was a 12 year old it might be ok. Yet you're ok with hitting a 4 year old with a stick. That's too fricking far.

And if you disagree then take a second look at your life. Realize the rules society has put in place and stop abusing your child, a-hole.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
15878 posts
Posted on 9/15/14 at 5:00 pm to
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Why are people acting like Adrian Peterson was punching his son in the face?


People are spoon fed what to feel and how to think now by the media. People are outraged over this because the media tells them they should be. That's why.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27835 posts
Posted on 9/15/14 at 5:02 pm to
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What part of AP's child being 4 years old do you not get?

Also, Peterson even said that he can't remember how many times he hit the child. Because he doesn't keep count. Do you think that's acceptable behavior for a grown adult?
Go back and read my first post and see if that helps your strawman argument.
Posted by Gmorgan4982
Member since May 2005
101750 posts
Posted on 9/15/14 at 5:02 pm to
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My dad beat me with a fricking boat paddle and I turned out fine.
Another exception to the rule.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
37977 posts
Posted on 9/15/14 at 5:02 pm to
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People are spoon fed what to feel and how to think now by the media. People are outraged over this because the media tells them they should be. That's why.
Meh, I'm outraged because a 4 year old got hit in the scrotum by his father.
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31148 posts
Posted on 9/15/14 at 5:03 pm to
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but aren't we talking about some pretty minor injuries like welts and bruises?


you are a terrible person
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33886 posts
Posted on 9/15/14 at 5:03 pm to
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There's no justification for what AD did. Period.

The fact that you keep making the same irrelevant point over and over again shows how dense you truly are.


No one is justifying it. People continue to use that word.

Because someone's viewpoint doesn't precisely coincide with yours on this, it must mean they support AP's decision to do what he did.

Is it not possible to be ok with physically disciplining children while also believing that AP took it too far?
Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
13161 posts
Posted on 9/15/14 at 5:04 pm to
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Punching somebody in the face is dangerous because it could potentially cause many serious injuries which are unpredictable. The act of whipping somebody with a thin tree branch on their backside can only cause a limited amount of injury to the extent of the force used. This post was edited on 9/15 at 4:55 pm


Wait, you're talking about potential injury here and say this about peterson's kid,
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I'm only talking about the extent of the injuries left behind. They are being described as much worse than they are in reality. That's the only thing I take issue with.


You're an idiot

If you can't keep your own story and argument straight, how do you expect to convince anyone to be on your side?
This post was edited on 9/15/14 at 5:06 pm
Posted by LSUknight2010
Member since Jan 2011
239 posts
Posted on 9/15/14 at 5:06 pm to
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Inexcusable.The poor child was probably crying his heart out. It looks like he hit him 15+ times. There should be no need to hit a 4 year old or any child like that. I know 4 year olds that cry if you get serious and raise your voice.
This post was edited on 9/15/14 at 5:08 pm
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 9/15/14 at 5:07 pm to
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Meh, I'm outraged because a 4 year old got hit in the scrotum by his father.

The OP is entirely too dense of an individual to understand this.
Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
13161 posts
Posted on 9/15/14 at 5:07 pm to
Disciplining physically (spanking) and whipping with a stick a four year old are different.

Spank him. Fine.

Whip him. Not.

It's pretty simple.
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31148 posts
Posted on 9/15/14 at 5:08 pm to
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No one is justifying it.


actually many people are. on this site.

here are some reasons:

1. they didn't read the whole police report
2. they didn't see the pictures
3. they think peterson "spanked" his son which was not the case at all

anyone defending what AP did are either sadistic psychopaths, or are ignorant of the details surrounding the case.

hint: stuffing leaves into your 4 year olds mouth while you pull his pants down and beat him with a switch isn't discipline, it's child abuse.
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31148 posts
Posted on 9/15/14 at 5:09 pm to
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.The poor child was probably crying his heart out.


i'm sure he was but no one could hear him because his mouth was stuffed with leaves apparently.
Posted by LSUknight2010
Member since Jan 2011
239 posts
Posted on 9/15/14 at 5:10 pm to
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Disciplining physically (spanking) and whipping with a stick a four year old are different. Spank him. Fine. Whip him. Not. It's pretty simple.


Exactly there should be no need for a switch! AP could've probably spanked him with his hand once and I bet the kid would've been in tears.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27835 posts
Posted on 9/15/14 at 5:12 pm to
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Wait, you're talking about potential injury here and say this about peterson's kid,

I'm not defending what Peterson did.

I am only saying that the actual injuries sustained should not be described as they are being described.

I wouldn't defend somebody punching somebody in the face, either, even if it "only" caused a black eye.

In that case, it also wouldn't be accurate to describe the injury as "severe" if it only caused a bruise.

I was simply saying that punching somebody in the face is much more dangerous because of the uncertainty that can result from punching somebody in the face. You can cause serious injuries. Broken orbital sockets, eye injuries, broken noses, sinus fractures, internal bleeding, unconsciousness, etc. because when you throw a punch, there is no telling the result.

But hitting somebody on their backside with a thin branch (while violent) is much more certain. You are going to cause welts. That's about the extent of it, and the welts can be worse depending on the force.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27835 posts
Posted on 9/15/14 at 5:13 pm to
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No one is justifying it. People continue to use that word.

Because someone's viewpoint doesn't precisely coincide with yours on this, it must mean they support AP's decision to do what he did.

Is it not possible to be ok with physically disciplining children while also believing that AP took it too far?
Seriously. People keep misrepresenting my position and attacking it.
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31148 posts
Posted on 9/15/14 at 5:15 pm to
what about the child saying that his dad hits him on his head?

what about stuffing leaves into his mouth while pulling his pants down whipping him across his butt until it bleeds?
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
31889 posts
Posted on 9/15/14 at 5:16 pm to
What he did was over the top and questions parenting, borderline abuse. But how many of us went through that and turned out fine? A lot I bet.

If it wasn't Adrian Peterson, 99% of the board wouldn't care and that is a fact.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27835 posts
Posted on 9/15/14 at 5:17 pm to
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what about the child saying that his dad hits him on his head?

what about stuffing leaves into his mouth while pulling his pants down whipping him across his butt until it bleeds?
Irrelevant to my point. I am not defending what he did at all.

I'm simply saying it's not accurate to describe the injuries as "severe". That's it. That's all I'm arguing.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
37977 posts
Posted on 9/15/14 at 5:18 pm to
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1. they didn't read the whole police report
I even posted it a couple of pages back. All they have to do is read.
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