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re: Who is the best of the two: Jim Brown or Barry Sanders?
Posted on 7/9/10 at 6:32 pm to Tactical1
Posted on 7/9/10 at 6:32 pm to Tactical1
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Babe Ruth is no where close to the greatest Baseball player,
Can't let you slide on that one, even if you said it without thinking.
Ruth hit 714 HRs and had a .342 career batting average.
And he had 2.27 career era -- 17th best era of all time. (Did you forget he was an all-star pitcher before he became the Sultan of Swat?)
Yea maybe he didn't have to play against the international players of today, but he was so dominant in his era (he hit 59 homers in 1921 which was more than all but 2 TEAMS hit that year).
If he's not one of the best of all time, then who is?
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Posted on 7/9/10 at 6:35 pm to Tactical1
quote:Late '50s/early '60s. Football "generations are generally 10-15 years, or sometimes 20, depending on how you look at it.
How long ago do you think he played???
A lot of people see Brown as part of the Starr/Unitas era. Then there's the Steel Curtain/Staubach era. Then the Montana/Elway/Marino years. Followed by the Cowboys/Bills/Favre generation.
Posted on 7/9/10 at 6:36 pm to Jamohn
Jim Brown was the greatest. Barry was great also. Totally different styles
Posted on 7/9/10 at 6:46 pm to Jamohn
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Late '50s/early '60s. Football "generations are generally 10-15 years, or sometimes 20, depending on how you look at it.
A lot of people see Brown as part of the Starr/Unitas era. Then there's the Steel Curtain/Staubach era. Then the Montana/Elway/Marino years. Followed by the Cowboys/Bills/Favre generation.
I get that, I am talking about the generation of sports writers "experts". most credible sports writers today covered some or even all of thsoe eras. When todays generation of journalists become tomorrows sports writers "experts" I have a feeling names like Brown, Ruth, Tarkenton, Starr, Unitas, Dimaggio will be a distant memory. not necessarily forgotten, just not mentioned with much reverence. This is what I was getting at.
Posted on 7/9/10 at 7:12 pm to Tactical1
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get that, I am talking about the generation of sports writers "experts". most credible sports writers today covered some or even all of thsoe eras
Dude Jim Brown retired in 1965, most "experts" are not over 60, which they would have to be to have covered him.
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I have a feeling names like Brown, Ruth, Tarkenton, Starr, Unitas, Dimaggio will be a distant memory. not necessarily forgotten, just not mentioned with much reverence. This is what I was getting at.
Ruth, Brown and probably Unitas will be long remembered. The others you are correct and guys like Tomlinson, Brady, Manning unless we wins a couple of more will be in the later group.
Posted on 7/9/10 at 7:17 pm to Tactical1
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Babe Ruth is no where close to the greatest Baseball player
Leave this thread NOW!!!!!!!!!! You are a complete DUMBASS!!!!!!!
Posted on 7/9/10 at 7:18 pm to Gen Patton
Barry Sanders would be my pick
Posted on 7/9/10 at 7:20 pm to dukke v
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Leave this thread NOW!!!!!!!!!! You are a complete DUMBASS!!!!!!!
coming from the guy that thinks LeBron owes something to Cleveland.
Posted on 7/9/10 at 7:23 pm to Tactical1
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coming from the guy that thinks LeBron owes something to Cleveland.
A phone call is all. BTW RUTH>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BRON. Get it straight.
Posted on 7/9/10 at 7:43 pm to Tactical1
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coming from the guy that thinks LeBron owes something to Cleveland.
This is a trillion times more credible than saying this:
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Babe Ruth is no where close to the greatest Baseball player,
Now you may not agree that Ruth is best ever, you can argue, he played when BB was segregated, lesser competition etc, etc, but to say he no where close to the best, frankly destroys your credibility.
Posted on 7/9/10 at 7:45 pm to H-Town Tiger
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This is a trillion times more credible than saying this:
quote:
Babe Ruth is no where close to the greatest Baseball player,
Now you may not agree that Ruth is best ever, you can argue, he played when BB was segregated, lesser competition etc, etc, but to say he no where close to the best, frankly destroys your credibility.
Posted on 7/9/10 at 7:50 pm to Gen Patton
Sanders was a highlight back. He was on something like two or three winning teams in his entire career for a reason, most of it being that he ran backward just as often as forward and his running style quite simply could kill any offense.
He does, however, have the greatest highlight reel of any player.
Brown was a FB who played for like 9 years and still set records that other rbs would struggle to break.
He does, however, have the greatest highlight reel of any player.
Brown was a FB who played for like 9 years and still set records that other rbs would struggle to break.
Posted on 7/9/10 at 8:11 pm to oilfieldtiger
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to me it's brown and and it's not even close.
retired at 29, 5.2 ypc, averaged +100 yards / game for his career, 9 x pro-bowler
Barry Sanders
Retired at 30, 5.0 ypc, averaged 100 yards per game for his career, 10 x pro-bowler selection
How is it not close?
Posted on 7/9/10 at 8:13 pm to LakeViewLSU
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Barry Sanders
Retired at 30, 5.0 ypc, averaged 100 yards per game for his career, 10 x pro-bowler selection
How is it not close?
Its really not close. Barry was AMAZING. BROWN was THE TREND SETTER!!!!
Posted on 7/9/10 at 8:15 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Now you may not agree that Ruth is best ever, you can argue, he played when BB was segregated, lesser competition etc, etc, but to say he no where close to the best, frankly destroys your credibility.
Oh yeah he has got great numbers that rank him as one of the greats but when considering less competition, pitching is nothing like then what it is now, minimum home run distance was 250 feet, The batter was given credit for a home run in the last of the ninth inning if the winning run was on base when the ball was hit out of the field. I mean shite man give me a break. The Sultan of swat couldn't homer off of John Rocker.
Those numbers may look great in halls of history but if you think for a second the babe could compete in todays game makes me question your credibility.
Posted on 7/9/10 at 8:24 pm to Tactical1
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Oh yeah he has got great numbers that rank him as one of the greats but when considering less competition,
This doesn't matter. Look at how much BETTER he was than anyone else during his playing days.
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minimum home run distance was 250 feet
And this means what????
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The batter was given credit for a home run in the last of the ninth inning if the winning run was on base when the ball was hit out of the field
Same thing happens today.
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The Sultan of swat couldn't homer off of John Rocker.
SO!!!!!!!!
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Those numbers may look great in halls of history but if you think for a second the babe could compete in todays game makes me question your credibility.
I have NEVER heard anyone say he could.
Posted on 7/9/10 at 8:31 pm to dukke v
I give up Dukke, to each his own. Should have known better than to try and talk some sense into some butthurt LeBron hater.
Posted on 7/9/10 at 8:39 pm to Tactical1
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Should have known better than to try and talk some sense into some butthurt LeBron hater.
You should give up. SINCE YOU want to talk about Lebron in an NFL RB THREAD!!! YOU = FAIL! SEE YA!!!!!!
Posted on 7/9/10 at 8:43 pm to dukke v
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You should give up. SINCE YOU want to talk about Lebron in an NFL RB THREAD!!! YOU = FAIL! SEE YA!!!!!!
Worst comback ever...
Posted on 7/9/10 at 8:49 pm to Tactical1
Ever heard of Gayle Sayers???????????
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