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re: Which player is the better postseason and NBA Finals performer?

Posted on 3/11/13 at 12:22 am to
Posted by TigerMan327
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 12:22 am to
instead of making dumb remarks you could try to actually argue your point..? obviously Kobe is considered better but if the switched teams they would literally have the same careers
Posted by lsu480
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 12:25 am to
No. If Kobe was on The Heat they would have been way better. He is a leader who would have made his role players better and superstars would have come to play with him earlier on. Also, no way Kobe and LeBron would not be going for their 3rd in a row this year if we are assuming he would have had the exact same teammates as Wade. As far as Wade goes...he would have won in L.A with Shaq but not with Gasoft.
Posted by TigerMan327
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 12:29 am to
when has Kobe ever made his role players better?

and what makes you think Kobe and LeBron would mesh? dwade finally realizedLeBron was the better player and took a backseat to him. Kobe would never dothat and it would cause a ton of team drama

and the Lakers with dwade would actually maybe be better with pau and Bynum because he would actually get the ball more. Kobe has a problem with sharing the rock with his big men


just so you know I'm not trying to say dwade is better than Kobe but honestly if they switched teams dwade would have more championships and be considered better
This post was edited on 3/11/13 at 12:34 am
Posted by WITNESS23
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 12:31 am to
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He is a leader who would have made his role players better










Posted by lsu480
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 12:43 am to
Do you even lift?
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 2:19 am to
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He is a leader who would have made his role players better




When in the actual frick has this ever happened
Posted by stevo1905
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 2:28 am to
Wade is much more efficient than Kobe. He's always been a bit underrated, IMO.
This post was edited on 3/11/13 at 2:30 am
Posted by Matisyeezy
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 3:20 am to
I don't hate Wade or Kobe, but if you're gonna base a comparison on NBA Finals stats you have to consider the massive bailout Wade got in the '06 Finals.
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 5:46 am to
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just so you know I'm not trying to say dwade is better than Kobe but honestly if they switched teams dwade would have more championships and be considered better




I thought you were kidding, but then you kept going. I am the furthest thing from a Kobe lover, but the dude is so much better than Wade it's not even funny. You're wrong on so many levels.

I mean did you even watch the 2006 Whistles...I mean Finals?
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 6:31 am to
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If wade would have been in LA and Kobe in Miami Wade would be considered better than kobe


Please tell me this is a joke.
Posted by TigerMan327
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 7:02 am to
If you switched their teams and careers (not changing stats at all) who would you consider better? The guy with 5 championships and 3 finals MVPs or the guy with 2 championships and 1 NBA finals?? That's all I'm saying. People use championships as a barometer of success and if Kobe was on the heat his whole career instead of the Lakers he would have literally the exact same career Dwade has had. Kobe is a great player and will go down has one of the greatest players but if you cant see that he is very lucky to have played with the one of the best coaches of all time and one of the best centers of all time then idk what to tell you. Kobe without the #1 big man in the league (shaq) or without 2 of the top 5 big men (Pau and Bynum when he won his 4th, 5th championships) is just a volume shooter who cant do shite but average 30 ppg and get a mediocre record and outed in the 1st round (which is very similar to how wade is without another superstar with him).


Just to be clear. In no way am I saying Wade is the better player. I'm just saying if you switched their careers people probably would consider Wade better. Kobe in his prime was a baller and the fact that he could still go out and average almost 30 ppg at his age and after like what..? 16 seasons? is fricking ridiculous.
This post was edited on 3/11/13 at 7:06 am
Posted by AlexLSU
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 7:49 am to
Basically the same player? In what way, exactly?
Posted by ATLTiger
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 7:51 am to
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The guy with 5 championships and 3 finals MVPs


Kobe has 2 Finals MVPs
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 8:07 am to
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Dude do you even watch basketball?
Wade produces more than Kobe and does so mire efficiently. If you are something different, maybe you're the one who isn't seeing things correctly lol.

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112939 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 8:11 am to
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I am the furthest thing from a Kobe lover, but the dude is so much better than Wade it's not even funny. 
Based on what?

If he is better, why doesn't he actually play better? He simply doesn't, Wade is a better producer than Kobe.

Kobe has longevity on Wade, wade in the years he's played has been better. You can say he hasn't, but I'd love to know what you're basing that on.
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