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re: Where Do the 2014 Spurs Rank Among Top Teams In Past 15 Years?
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:28 am to WestCoastAg
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:28 am to WestCoastAg
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this spur team may have more depth, but that laker team is deep enough to play with a prime shaq and kobe who was putting up something like 29 pts a game that year. im feeling pretty good about the 2001 laker team playing this year spurs team. shaq would be too much just like he would be for everyone else
Pop would draw Shaq out of the paint like he did to Ibaka. And shaq for all his dominance wouldn't be mobile enough to recover quickly to always protect the rim. Also keep in mind that the Tim Duncan the lakers beat in 2000 and 01 isn't the same Tim from 14. Much more range to put stress on the lakers defense.
Remember how much of a challenge the Kings presented for LA? The Spurs are a smarter, deeper version of that.
It'd be a helluva series. Of course you'll side with your lakers and me with my Spurs, but I don't think you can say either wins definitively.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:32 am to TbirdSpur2010
quote:a lot of people tried to do this to shaq, he just wouldn't leave the paint
Pop would draw Shaq out of the paint like he did to Ibaka
quote:now this is true
Much more range to put stress on the lakers defense.
quote:a lot of that came from that 2002 team being ALL shaq and kobe and that king team ran the Princeton offense like heroes. that king team was very good. hell I think they should be up here on these lists.
Remember how much of a challenge the Kings presented for LA?
quote:nuh uh. LAKERS SWEEP!!11!1!
but I don't think you can say either wins definitively.
This post was edited on 6/21/14 at 1:34 am
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:36 am to WestCoastAg
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a lot of people tried to do this to shaq, he just wouldn't leave the paint
Red Mamba/Boris Diaw party, then
quote:
now this is true
I know. This is one of the reasons Im hesitant to compare teams across eras longer than a few years. Players can become infinitely more dangerous with experience.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:38 am to WestCoastAg
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a lot of that came from that 2002 team being ALL shaq and kobe and that king team ran the Princeton offense like heroes.
True. And that's also kind of a shitty comparison on my part I guess because SA doesn't really run a Princeton offense.
I agree that those kings should get more love. It's like I was saying with the 07 mavs. Folks forget how scary some teams were that DIDN'T ring for whatever reason.
Oh, and Spurs in 6, motherfricker
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:39 am to TbirdSpur2010
and all of this is coming from the viewpoint that the 2001 laker team would be playing like they did in the playoffs and not like they did at points in the season when kobe bogged down the offense. that team had an entire playoff run that matched what this spurs team did in the final three games of the finals. it was amazing
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:40 am to TbirdSpur2010
quote:speaking of 2001, I really liked that spurs team. I was recently re watching that CF and was thinking damn, I like this team
It's like I was saying with the 07 mavs. Folks forget how scary some teams were that DIDN'T ring for whatever reason.
quote:the sonic on the corner of texas and university. meet me there
Oh, and Spurs in 6, motherfricker
This post was edited on 6/21/14 at 1:42 am
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:41 am to WestCoastAg
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the 2001 laker team would be playing like they did in the playoffs and not like they did at points in the season when kobe bogged down the offense. that team had an entire playoff run that matched what this spurs team did in the final three games of the finals. it was amazing
Watched all of that run and yes it was incredible.
The lakers were dominant. The Spurs were execution assassins.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:42 am to AlaTiger
2001 Lakers
2014 Spurs
2008 Celtics
I think those are the top 3. I'm gonna exclude the 2000 and 2002 Lakers just because of redundancy.
2014 Spurs
2008 Celtics
I think those are the top 3. I'm gonna exclude the 2000 and 2002 Lakers just because of redundancy.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:43 am to WestCoastAg
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speaking of 2001, I really liked the spurs team
That team wasn't ready.
quote:
the sonic on the corner of texas and university. meet me there
I have some dry cleaning to pick up, so we might have to switch it to the Mi Cocina on George Bush.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:44 am to TbirdSpur2010
quote:they just weren't ready to beat kobe/shaq. if it wasn't for those two the spurs dominate the NBA in the first half of the 2000s. not the other way around
That team wasn't ready.
quote:George bush is too far damnit
Mi Cocina on George Bush.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:50 am to WestCoastAg
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they just weren't ready to beat kobe/shaq. if it wasn't for those two the spurs dominate the NBA in the first half of the 2000s. not the other way around
Very possible, although I don't know if we don't succumb to Sacramento too. Then again they just seemed to ball out of their minds against y'all because of the rivalry.
Those portland teams in 1999 and 2000 were ridiculous too.
quote:
George bush is too far damnit
Goddammit, Applebee's parking lot then, like common peasants
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:55 am to TbirdSpur2010
quote:that Portland team was very good in 1999 and 2000. more teams that are forgotten because they didn't win. the only time i thought sacramento could beat us was in 2002. so that leaves 2001 to go along with 2003. yea i don't know. the west was amazing like always
although I don't know if we don't succumb to Sacramento too
quote:we can do that, but that's right across the street from sonic. so i say we keep it according to TD bylaws and have it at sonic
Applebee's parking lot then, like common peasants
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:57 am to TbirdSpur2010
9th behind the
99 Spurs
00 Lakers
01 Lakers
04 Pistons
05 Spurs
08 Celtics
09 Lakers
11 Mavs
99 Spurs
00 Lakers
01 Lakers
04 Pistons
05 Spurs
08 Celtics
09 Lakers
11 Mavs
Posted on 6/21/14 at 2:03 am to WestCoastAg
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that Portland team was very good in 1999 and 2000. more teams that are forgotten because they didn't win.
Yeah only the hoops junkies remember I guess lol. That 99 portland team legitimately scared me. They'd just beaten a motivated jazz team that was pushing for that first post-jordan title. No way SA should have swept them. I still don't know how Sean Elliott made that shot.
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the only time i thought sacramento could beat us was in 2002. so that leaves 2001 to go along with 2003. yea i don't know. the west was amazing like always
Ridiculous conference. And really the 03 spurs team beat y'all because of factors y'all weren't ready for. Parker came on quickly, Stephen Jackson became a somebody that year, and that was Ginobili's rookie campaign.
I distinctly remember a commentator during that series saying Manu couldn't be counted on to score double digits consistently in the postseason
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we can do that, but that's right across the street from sonic. so i say we keep it according to TD bylaws and have it at sonic
Posted on 6/21/14 at 2:12 am to TbirdSpur2010
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I still don't know how Sean Elliott made that shot.
quote:dead on. to go along with that 2003 laker team had cracks that comes from three straight titles. still have no clue how they won in 2002. like i really don't. that team, as far as championship teams can be, was rather weak. the kobe/shaq duo was just godly
And really the 03 spurs team beat y'all because of factors y'all weren't ready for. Parker came on quickly, Stephen Jackson became a somebody that year, and that was Ginobili's rookie campaign.
honestly don't remember much from 2003 outside of the spurs series. it was the spurs time to finally get over the hump. you could see it coming to just how the lakers played the twolves in the first round
quote:if only you could bump spoken words
distinctly remember a commentator during that series saying Manu couldn't be counted on to score double digits consistently in the postseason
This post was edited on 6/21/14 at 2:15 am
Posted on 6/21/14 at 2:20 am to WestCoastAg
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No joke. Every time I see a replay, I think Elie's inbounds pass is getting stolen, and then I just KNOW Rasheed is about to block it. The man never saw the basket, I'm convinced
Very true.
And the irony of our 03 and 04 series always strikes me. Robert Horry MISSES a game winner in game 5, then the next year Fisher HITS with .4 on the clock? How do either of those happen?
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2002. like i really don't. that team, as far as championship teams can be, was rather weak. the kobe/shaq duo was just godly
fricking nasty team. Disgusting how good they were.
quote:
if only you could bump spoken words
If only
I was living in Greece and it was said on SportsCenter after one of the Spurs wins that series.
I actually remember thinking that the guy was right in saying that, but I liked the way that Argentinian guy played anyways.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 2:22 am to WestCoastAg
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that Portland team was very good in 1999 and 2000.
The Lakers killed the Trail Blazers with Game 7 in '00. I ad the same dentist as Sabonis as a kid I've only seen highlights from those teams since I was too young to remember anything, but I'm sure glad I don't remember the heartbreak. Brandon Roy's and Oden's knees are plenty enough for me. Talk about robbery.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 2:23 am to WestCoastAg
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honestly don't remember much from 2003 outside of the spurs series. it was the spurs time to finally get over the hump.
That Spurs team was never meant to win a title. At all. Filled with aging or young pieces that just happened to click. Duncan was playing at an MVP level but most Spurs fans were pining for Avery Johnson still and we're pissed that we'd signed old arse Steve Kerr. And Robinson was hurting.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 2:24 am to theducks
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I ad the same dentist as Sabonis as a kid
Arvydas
If only he'd come over sooner.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 2:31 am to TbirdSpur2010
quote:blah. that bitch was in the fricking cylinder
Robert Horry MISSES a game winner in game 5
then the next year Fisher HITS with .4 on the clock?
quote:cause the basketball gods are twisted bastards
How do either of those happen?
quote:turned out alright
I actually remember thinking that the guy was right in saying that, but I liked the way that Argentinian guy played anyways.
This post was edited on 6/21/14 at 2:32 am
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