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re: Where do I sign the petition to permanently ban Myles Garrett

Posted on 11/15/19 at 7:21 pm to
Posted by 93and99
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Posted on 11/15/19 at 7:21 pm to
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lsutigers1992


Playing the race card
Posted by FAP SAM
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Posted on 11/15/19 at 7:24 pm to
So, to be totally clear, you want anyone that throws a punch or gets in a tussle (in football, basketball, baseball, etc) to be prosecuted?
Posted by heypaul
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Posted on 11/15/19 at 7:26 pm to
How can anyone take you serious?
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
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Posted on 11/15/19 at 7:26 pm to
Your reading teachers failed you.
Posted by FAP SAM
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Posted on 11/15/19 at 7:29 pm to
So then what imaginary line has to be crossed in order for an offense to be prosecutable?
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 11/15/19 at 7:34 pm to
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So then what imaginary line has to be crossed in order for an offense to be prosecutable?
When another human being's life is in jeopardy of being permanently altered or even ended from blunt force trauma to the head from a weapon that was forcibly removed from him seems like it's well within those borders.

Then again I'm talking to a guy that equates bare-fisted fights on skates with what happened last night.

Nothing's going to happen to him in that regard. The league will make sure of that. Doesn't mean it shouldn't.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/15/19 at 7:40 pm to
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what imaginary line has to be crossed in order for an offense to be prosecutable?

there actually is caselaw about this. the typical line is based in relation to the game itself. i think the last major case was Marty McSorley

clearly last night's behavior could be criminal, but it's very likely the Steelers/Rudolph don't want to pursue them

if a victim of a simple battery doesn't want to pursue charges, it's pretty much never going to become anything
Posted by Mrwhodat
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 11/15/19 at 7:42 pm to
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Where do I sign the petition to permanently ban Myles Garrett by heypaul
From the NFL?
Why was he not immediately fired and charged?


Posted by 21JumpStreet
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 11/15/19 at 7:46 pm to
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What he did was pretty shitty, but the soapboxing on this has become unbearable.


Say it louder for the people in the back
Posted by FAP SAM
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 11/15/19 at 7:46 pm to
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the typical line is based in relation to the game itself

And do you think that it could be argued, if a prosecutor were so inclined, that many punches/fights are outside of "the game itself"?

I feel like this is a Pandoras box that we really should not open
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 11/15/19 at 7:47 pm to
But it was attempted murder!!!!!!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/15/19 at 7:49 pm to
the hyperbole is so incredible. the hit wasn't even that hard

suspend him for the rest of the year? fine

anything more? come the frick on
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 11/15/19 at 7:50 pm to
Its always wild when stuff like this happens cause it makes you remember how lowkey racist people are
Posted by FAP SAM
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 11/15/19 at 7:56 pm to
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suspend him for the rest of the year? fine

anything more? come the frick on

Get outta here with all this common sensical talk, this is a thread for people that are OUTRAGED
Posted by SeeeeK
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Posted on 11/15/19 at 7:58 pm to
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Its always wild when stuff like this happens cause it makes you remember how lowkey racist people are


Another shite comment, and this time an actual Ghey aTm fan with the take.


SHOCKER!!!!!!!!!
Posted by LilWezyAna
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Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 11/15/19 at 7:59 pm to
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Its always wild when stuff like this happens cause it makes you remember how lowkey racist people are

Not a race thing. If Garrett did this to Deshaun Watson or Brissett, people would be more upset

What it really shows is how people don’t give a shite unless the player is good. Rudolph? Most people dont care. If this happened to Brady or Brees? Garrett would never see another snap of NFL football
Posted by lsufanva
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Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 11/15/19 at 8:20 pm to
Understand what youre saying but its in hindsight. When does intent come into play? With all the rage about concussions and long term effects of head injuries, isnt this essentially spitting in the face of those on that soapbox? What if Rudolph were seriously injured? What punishment would you guys be calling for then? Im guessing a lot of the dissenters in this thread would sing a different tune. Intent(real or percieved) matters, in football and law.
As far as punishment, huge fine and long suspension. Whats the length of games for something like Josh Gordons substance abuse history? Id rather my football players be fricked up or juicing before bashing each other with helmets on helmetless heads
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 11/15/19 at 8:33 pm to
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the hit wasn't even that hard
Because of DeCastro. Not because of any restraint shown by Garret. Arguing against the intent is silly.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/15/19 at 8:41 pm to
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Arguing against the intent is silly.

i'm not

i said suspend him for the rest of the year

for a first offense that's an insane suspension
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 11/15/19 at 8:42 pm to
"The hit wasn't that hard." is doing exactly that. Especially when you leave out the context of why it wasn't. Had DeCastro not been there we would be having a completely different conversation, you and I both know it.
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