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re: When Bryce Harper retires...

Posted on 5/22/13 at 10:47 pm to
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 10:47 pm to
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Inky was a a big fat guy who belted homers and had the mobility of a rock. That was Dan that made that comp. I didn't agree with that one. I still don't get it, especially since he was a college player, and Harper is far more advanced at age 20 than Inky was.


Harper is obviously the better athlete, but Incaviglia wasn't always fat. He was stocky/ripped, especially in college.

Anyhow, it doesn't really matter. I more meant to use him as a launching point. I could have said Adam Dunn or someone else with huge power and high strikeout totals.

At the time I wrote it, Bryce was struggling. I even acknowledged he had more talent in the post.
Posted by Dr. Huxtable
Member since Jan 2013
1002 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 10:49 pm to
just a good baseball player
Posted by Preys on Gumps
Wrigleyville
Member since May 2012
2099 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 10:49 pm to
Short memories...remember Kevin Mitchell?
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 11:54 pm to
Kevin Mitchell is one of the most talented guys to ever take the diamond.

Dude was just a maniac.
Posted by UncleRuckus
Member since Feb 2013
10112 posts
Posted on 5/23/13 at 12:26 am to
He'll probably be known as a huge douche
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 5/23/13 at 8:26 am to
Actually, I think I brought up Adam Dunn, and I know I brought up Chris Davis, about how a ton of strikeouts can derail even the best hitting prospects. Harper is pretty much at that line where his strikeout numbers are probably just a consequence of his power (HR hitters have big K totals, as a general rule), but if he starts to become more hack-y, he could see a real tumble in his production. See what's happening to Josh Hamilton in the wake of his uncontrollable K rates.

Some K's? Good sign. Too many K's? Bad sign. It's kind of weird. K's are both a good and bad indicator. You don't really want a guy who never strikes out, as he's unlikely to have much power. Anyway, I do think Harper's K rates will keep him from hitting 300, but it will allow him to slug 550, so... worth it.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 8:27 am to
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PJ, move over, there is a new idiot in town.




Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 5/23/13 at 9:14 am to
Yeah, K rates are fascinating.

Some guys strike out a ton and walk a ton (Dunn).

Some guys just strike out a ton.

But you are right, those who never strike out, generally have no power.

Joey Votto a couple of years ago is the exception and he hasn't repeated that power performance.
Posted by townhallsavoy
Member since Oct 2007
3045 posts
Posted on 5/23/13 at 9:28 am to
I'm not going to answer that question. That's a clown question, bro.
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
40491 posts
Posted on 5/23/13 at 9:53 am to
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Will he be considered one of the GOAT? A Hall of Famer? Or just another baseball player? What y'all think.




Seriously? Just stop..
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 5/23/13 at 10:02 am to
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I appreciate the hustle and energy he brings...but I want to be able to watch it for more than just a few seasons. Making a habit of crashing into walls isn't conducive to a longterm career, no matter how talented you are


THIS



Is bullshite. Then you're disrespecting the game if you don't go after a ball just to not try to hurt your career. You play the game 90 miles an hour every play. Now, I will say, he needs to be smarter about the wall. Or at least his teammates need to give him a wall call. But to say you don't go balls out to not get hurt is utter bullshite. You never disrespect the game like that. No little kids wanna be like Roger fricking Dorn.

And btw, it's more endearing to watch a player give himself up to make the play.

But to the OP, that's a dumb question. He's 20 or 21 years old, there's way too many things that could happen that could derail him. Baseball is the hardest sport to be truly great at.
This post was edited on 5/23/13 at 10:10 am
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