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re: What's wrong with the cavs?
Posted on 1/25/17 at 1:20 pm to LilWezyAna
Posted on 1/25/17 at 1:20 pm to LilWezyAna
You would have to find something a GM said this season. Within the last couple months. otherwise no. Harden is playing like the top player in the league. And you got guys like Giannis coming right out and saying it. "He's the best player in the league right now."
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Posted on 1/25/17 at 1:23 pm to redfishfan
Defense does matter but its not as important as offense.
Funny bc he lead all SG in DWS 2 years ago, and this year is top 3 among guards in DWS. Top 15 in the league overall in DWS at last glance. It's very easy to tell who in these threads doesn't watch the teams they comment on and who bases their posts off a couple video snippets that they see.
quote:eh Durant is a damn good rim protector.
If defense didn't matter I would take Durant over LBJ all day.
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he's average at best on that end while Leonard is elite and IMO the best defender in the NBA.
Funny bc he lead all SG in DWS 2 years ago, and this year is top 3 among guards in DWS. Top 15 in the league overall in DWS at last glance. It's very easy to tell who in these threads doesn't watch the teams they comment on and who bases their posts off a couple video snippets that they see.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 1:24 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Harden is playing like the top player in the league. And you got guys like Giannis coming right out and saying it. "He's the best player in the league right now."
And this does not mean GMs would want to take him and start a team around him
Posted on 1/25/17 at 1:24 pm to Boomshockalocka
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And you got guys like Giannis coming right out and saying it. "He's the best player in the league right now."
Nobody is their right mind thinks Harden has ever been or is "the best player in the league". Its just something people say. Everybody knows LBJ is clearly the best player with Durant/Leonard in the 2/3 spots. 4/5 are up to debate IMO. Personally I would put Harden at 4 but would understand if somebody had him lower.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 1:25 pm to LilWezyAna
Never said it did Bubba don't put words in my mouth k?
This post was edited on 1/25/17 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 1/25/17 at 1:27 pm to redfishfan
Yea an NBA player who had just played v both guys in recent weeks is not the person we would wanna talk to about this. We'll ask the guy who is out catching redfish in his spare time. He's the go to guy for NBA player rankings.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 1:27 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Contender:
: a person who has a good chance of winning
from the dictionary. Now IDK what % makes up a "good chance" to you but to me it's not those Bulls teams. To me you gotta have at least a 10% shot for me to call you a contender.
Correct . You don't understand contender. So you're saying the 3rd place 2017 Rockets aren't contenders behind the Cavs ,Spurs ( big brother) & Warriors?
The Bulls probaby win the East with a healthy Pippen(3-7 ) & took the Knicks to 7 despite the Phantom foul on him that cost the Bulls a 3-2 lead going into a closeout game 6 at home.
With a healthy Pippen thats a 1st place squad.
Sort of like the '95 6th place Rockets.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 1:28 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Defense does matter but its not as important as offense.
Oh, I didn't realize your opinion shifted on this. I thought it used to be just as important.
You know, since Cavs O-rating without Love/Kyrie decreased by roughly the same amount their D-rating increased. That used to mean that their absences made no difference because the D made up for the loss of O.
But now I see offense is more important. So shouldn't losing offense, but gaining defense hurt more?
Spin for me please.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 1:29 pm to sugar71
I can Intepret how I see fit. I don't toss around the term contender all Willy nilly to any team with 50 something wins. You gotta show me that you have a good chance to win it all. A legit chance. Not an outside 10% chance.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 1:29 pm to CarolinaGamecock99
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Lost 5 of last 7 games.
happens every year and they are well rested for the playoffs
Posted on 1/25/17 at 1:30 pm to Boomshockalocka
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It's very easy to tell who in these threads doesn't watch the teams they comment on and who bases their posts off a couple video snippets that they see.
I've watched the Rockets play more than any other team this year. I'm a basketball guy. The NBA is by far my favorite thing in sports. I spent 10 years coaching on the high school level. I'm not basing my opinion on a video snippet. I'm basing it on watching the Rockets play 10 or more times this year and following the NBA on a daily basis. James Harden is an AVERAGE defender. I don't think LBJ is even in the top 20 of DWS this season but in the post season who would you rather have defending for your team Curry or LBJ?
Posted on 1/25/17 at 1:31 pm to redfishfan
quote:Lebron is the EXCEPTION because he saves it for the playoffs. Not every player in the league saves it for the playoffs. So bump Harden down one spot because Lebron is better but is saving himself, fine with me.
I don't think LBJ is even in the top 20 of DWS this season but in the post season who would you rather have defending for your team Curry or LBJ?
This post was edited on 1/25/17 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 1/25/17 at 1:33 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Yea an NBA player who had just played v both guys in recent weeks is not the person we would wanna talk to about this. We'll ask the guy who is out catching redfish in his spare time. He's the go to guy for NBA player rankings.
Did you see the NBA players All Star voting ballots?
Some NBA players can be just as biased, petty & delusional as you are coming across.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 1:34 pm to Boomshockalocka
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We'll ask the guy who is out catching redfish in his spare time. He's the go to guy for NBA player rankings.
That's your problem. You always try to devalue an opinion that doesn't agree with you. Basketball was my life for 30 years. It's what I did for a living for 10 years. You can try to say a "high school coach doesn't know shite" but when your around a sport as long I have been you pick up a few things.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 1:35 pm to Tigerfan56
Highest indivudual offensive win share 7.6
Highest individual defensive win share 3.6
Clear that several players have more of an impact on wins offensively than even the best defensive player does.
Highest individual defensive win share 3.6
Clear that several players have more of an impact on wins offensively than even the best defensive player does.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 1:36 pm to sugar71
quote:
Some NBA players
yes some, that doesn't mean you can discount Giannis opinion just because SOME players don't take this seriously.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 1:38 pm to redfishfan
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You can try to say a "high school coach doesn't know shite" but when your around a sport as long I have been you pick up a few things.
Yet you still think that the Spurs are the machine they were 3-4 years ago when it's clear as day that they aren't. Maybe you should put more time in??
Posted on 1/25/17 at 1:42 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Yet you still think that the Spurs are the machine they were 3-4 years ago when it's clear as day that they aren't. Maybe you should put more time in??
I don't think that at all and never claimed it to be true. Even with them not being that machine they are still a better team than the Rockets. Here's why...
They rely less on ISO which makes them harder to defend in a 7 game series.
They have a better coach.
They are better on defense.
Edit- There you go again trying to devalue an opinion you don't like. This time by just making something up.
This post was edited on 1/25/17 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 1/25/17 at 1:47 pm to redfishfan
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They rely less on ISO which makes them harder to defend in a 7 game series.
They have a better coach.
They are better on defense.
They supposedly had all these advantages last year v OKC ---
LOSS
OH and the prior year v LAC.. Yea that too --
LOSS
Their top level players quite frankly are no longer championship caliber. They win a lot of reg season games because they are very deep and they play good team ball. Guess what when the other squads reserves are playing less minutes in the playoffs and you running washed up Parkers and Manus out there, and the Bertans kinda guys arent making an impact bc the rotations shave shrunk down, well that's when you see another rd 2 exit.
This post was edited on 1/25/17 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 1/25/17 at 1:49 pm to Boomshockalocka
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They supposedly had all these advantages last year v OKC --- LOSS
Big difference is that OKC had 2 of the best 5 players in the world. Houston doesn't have that.
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