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re: What’s the problem with Georgia Tech football?
Posted on 11/21/19 at 9:24 pm to TexasTiger08
Posted on 11/21/19 at 9:24 pm to TexasTiger08
I think I can chime in here.
PJ is gone. Geoff Collins is the new coach. PJ did not recruit. He believed in his system so much that he believed it would overcome talent.
We averaged 51 in recruiting classes nationally under Paul Johnson.
We had 11 scholarship seniors to start the season. We now have 6 due to season ending injuries.
Our starting center is a walk on with zero FBS offers.
One of our DEs is a guy that most GT fans didn’t even know was on scholarship.
Our best DL and NT died unexpectedly back in March. He was a beast and an NFL talent.
You name what has gone wrong for this new staff and it has gone wrong. Beyond just switching from a triple option to a proStyle spread.
But no matter, as it stands GT currently has a top 25 class for 2020. The new staff is getting it done.
GT isn’t the first school to have major issues in the first year of a new staff. We are excited about the recruiting and future of GT football with a guy who gets that CFB is part coaching and part recruiting.
PJ is gone. Geoff Collins is the new coach. PJ did not recruit. He believed in his system so much that he believed it would overcome talent.
We averaged 51 in recruiting classes nationally under Paul Johnson.
We had 11 scholarship seniors to start the season. We now have 6 due to season ending injuries.
Our starting center is a walk on with zero FBS offers.
One of our DEs is a guy that most GT fans didn’t even know was on scholarship.
Our best DL and NT died unexpectedly back in March. He was a beast and an NFL talent.
You name what has gone wrong for this new staff and it has gone wrong. Beyond just switching from a triple option to a proStyle spread.
But no matter, as it stands GT currently has a top 25 class for 2020. The new staff is getting it done.
GT isn’t the first school to have major issues in the first year of a new staff. We are excited about the recruiting and future of GT football with a guy who gets that CFB is part coaching and part recruiting.
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Posted on 11/21/19 at 9:34 pm to RiseUpATL
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PJ did not recruit
ga high school coaches back in the spring said that they were seeing Tech coaches at their school for the first time in 15 years. embarrassing.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 9:37 pm to FightinTigersDammit
Calvin Johnson
Posted on 11/21/19 at 9:50 pm to RiseUpATL
holy shite that catch..after review it was ruled an incompletion.
This post was edited on 11/21/19 at 9:54 pm
Posted on 11/21/19 at 9:53 pm to RiseUpATL
How does GT's academic requirements compare to Duke, Vandy, etc.? I'm guessing they can't give athletes filler courses
Posted on 11/21/19 at 10:15 pm to J Murdah
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Major city cfb teams are never very good. I don't know why, that's just the way it is. USC might be the only exception.
True. My thinking has been that these programs never get as serious about football because the population is more transient/less connected to the school and the program has to compete for fans who have more options on how to spend a weekend.
Places like Tuscaloosa, Columbus OH, Clemson, etc don’t have these “problems”.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 10:57 pm to Mithridates6
They can’t. All students at a minimum have got take calculus. We have business management degree but it’s a BS so science and math is required.
CGC says that is a benefit and a plus to a student athlete. He is spinning it as a positive. And it’s working. Brent Key is also doing a great job making that pitch.
With CGC I’ll not use it as an excuse. It’ll limits GT for sure but there are plenty of smart big guys out there.
CGC says that is a benefit and a plus to a student athlete. He is spinning it as a positive. And it’s working. Brent Key is also doing a great job making that pitch.
With CGC I’ll not use it as an excuse. It’ll limits GT for sure but there are plenty of smart big guys out there.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 11:19 pm to StupidBinder
Miami has had good teams and is basically in a large city.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 11:37 pm to RiseUpATL
It will be interesting to watch. I think they have a good coach but PJ damaged them. If they give him more than 2 years and can recruit they will be much improved in year 4.
Of course, they never should have left the SEC.
Of course, they never should have left the SEC.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 11:45 pm to FourcadeBrigade
Year 4 is about right. PJ did damage us but Dan Radakovich knew that was the risk when he hired him.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 11:45 pm to Mithridates6
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How does GT's academic requirements compare to Duke, Vandy, etc.? I'm guessing they can't give athletes filler courses
entrance requirements are a little more stringent than most, but they do get exceptions. the main issue is that we don't have any BA degree programs so there aren't any majors for athletes to hide in. This affects their ability to keep athletes on track to meet degree progression requirements.
Posted on 11/22/19 at 12:45 am to Porter Osborne Jr
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You'd be wrong. I've sent a few C average student there to play football
And they were probably in academic probation after their first year, if this was actually true and not just a uga fan spewing their typical bs.
Dean's list at tech is a 3.0. This illustrates the intensity of Tech's curriculum. The admission rate for normal students is below 20%. It's difficult for an elite student to achieve a 3.0 GPA, good luck keeping your typical football player in good academic standing. Especially when the professors don't give a shite and there are no joke majors.
Early in the CPJ era, GT couldn't sign more than I think 4 special admits a year. That limitation was increased a bit because GT's SAs were doing a good job of staying eligible and in school. Compare that to your typical sec school like uga where 75% are probably special admits.
This post was edited on 11/22/19 at 12:47 am
Posted on 11/22/19 at 5:56 am to glb
I sure hope the coach works out because he wants to be there so if he does well he won't be inclined to go to greener pastures.
We need an honest to gosh throwing QB that was recruited with the expectation of completing more than 45% of their passes. With the portal running through several to find the right should be easier than it used to be.
We need an honest to gosh throwing QB that was recruited with the expectation of completing more than 45% of their passes. With the portal running through several to find the right should be easier than it used to be.
Posted on 11/22/19 at 6:49 am to AustinKnight
Trying to convert from wishbone to real, non-gimmick offense takes a couple recruiting cycles to re-tool with actual athletes
Posted on 11/22/19 at 7:44 am to Mithridates6
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Ok compare that to SEC players outside Vandy and Mizzou who are often barely literate
First, why did you throw Mizzou in there with Vandy? They’ve taken players from Ga who have barely graduated.
I agree that they don’t take the high risk kids but that doesn’t excuse the poor recruiting they had under Johnson. Now that they have a coach with a personality and a current style of offense they will continue to see an uptick in recruiting.
Posted on 11/22/19 at 7:50 am to glb
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And they were probably in academic probation after their first year, if this was actually true and not just a uga fan spewing their typical bs.
It’s true hoss. The school I coach at has sent multiple kids to Tech. One had above a 4.0 and the others were C students. None failed out and one currently in is doing fine. I’ll have to ask him what his major is though. They also threw an offer to one of our current juniors after a camp but I imagine that they won’t let him commit until his grades improve.
Posted on 11/22/19 at 8:37 am to AustinKnight
I would have hired one more option coach if I were them but I guess they were bored with that and wanted a change.
Posted on 11/22/19 at 8:59 am to AustinKnight
They do have more SEC Football Championships than the Mississippi schools, Arkansas and Texas A&M.
This post was edited on 11/22/19 at 9:00 am
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