What is your criteria for determining a conferences' strength?

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What is your criteria for determining a conferences' strenghth?

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Academics

How much you can pay athletes off

Mathematically the only thing that you can judge strength on is non conference performance

Which is also why I support a larger college football playoff. 12 games and 3/4 non conference gaems is way too small of a sample size in a sub division of 128 teams to come up with the 4 best teams.

Having multiple teams/programs capable of winning a title and sustaining that period of success over a period of time.

In the BCS era the SEC had as many different NC winners as the rest of the county combined.

Overall strength, or in a particular sport?

Who has the most titles.

You can do this with most sports - like baseball...

It's the Pac-12 by far.

Football - you can't do this because so many schools claim bullshite.

College Basketball you can do this.

Track and Field and other Olympic sports you can do this...but you really don't need to dig too deep because it's obvious.

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I think your question about the difference in the SEC vs the Sun Belt solicits that answer. It's simple... talent (i.e. recruiting).

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Look, full disclosure, I'm an LSU fan/grad who did not grow up in the south, but I defend it a great deal. I'm not referring to any specific instance, but more how people think. I know of the various formulas, etc, but largely I think perception is more of what matters. Particularly in football where there is relatively so little cross over and team x plays roughly 10% of FBS teams. It's a very small sample size.

Look at 2011, every formula ranked the Big12 better than SEC, but it's champ was left out for a divisional runner up. We don't need to rehash, but conference perception is pretty important when it comes to selection in a most sports.

Now, talent, I agree. But how is it measured objectively? Recruiting rankings? NFL draft picks? You can't measure those in the season. It's like the supreme court's definition of porn--you know it when you see it.

There's no right answer here, and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I'm just curious how yall measure it, and not just football.

Take Sagarin, his conference rankings are based on a formula of "central mean", simple average, and this win 50%

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There are three group ratings, the "central mean", the
"simple average" (also known as the "arithmetic mean",)
and the WIN50%.
The "central mean" gives the most weight to the middle team(s)
in the group and progressively less weight to teams as you go
away from the middle in either direction, up or down.
This tends to smooth out the effect of anomalous teams that are rated
much higher and lower than the middle team(s) in the group. The
"simple average" ("arithmetic mean") weights each team equally
no matter where they are relative to the middle.
Here are a few examples of how the "central mean" is computed.
4-team group ___ the weights are 1-2-2-1

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Obviously this is a respected formula, but it's all kind of arbitrary. So what do you look at?

What is the best baseball conference this year? Big 12 or SEC and why?

What about basketball? Big 10? They had 3 sweet 16 teams and 1 final four. The sec had 3/16 also and 2 Final Four teams. Few will argue SEC>Big10.

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Korin

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I always think I will be amazed at the ignorance but usually I never am...because it's like clockwork.

Look it up, chuckles. Laughing boy...idiot boy...mentally deficient.

Because laughing at my post...proved to the MSB that you are basically a retarded person.

If the SEC had won the last two baseball titles and most in history...they would say...we are the greatest thing since sliced bread.

But the Pac-12 has won the last two baseball titles...and 22 overall - compared to the SEC's 9.

Of which...one school - LSU, won 6 of them.

You take away all of USC's baseball titles - and the Pac-12 still leads the SEC 12-9.

In fact, in the last 10 years, the Pac-12 still leads the SEC 5-4.

Never has the SEC in the last 50 years ever lead or beat the Pac-12 at baseball in standings.

So, chuckles, how do you like them apples?

SEC claiming to the be the best baseball conference is like the Big10 claiming to be the best football conference the last 10 years.

Sure you get a lot of teams and media love - but you don't produce...

West Coast has won 6 of the last 10. Besides LSU...only Georgia and South Carolina has ever won shite in baseball since 1970.

Almost every Pac-12 team has won a title.

But don't let facts get in your way laughing boy chuckles. Ugh...

Doesn't anyone have a brain anymore on the MSB? Has the MSB become the Rant?

It's not hard to look shite up.

They're a one-trick pony in both major sports.