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re: What is wrong with Rice Baseball?

Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:24 pm to
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:24 pm to
Kansas didn't win a title in basketball...between 1952 - 1988. And are considered obviously a blue blood. Same with Michigan in CFB.

The teams I listed made the CWS by far more than anyone else. Over a long period of time. Bluebloods, powers, history. Why do some fans treat college baseball different than college football and basketball.

Again, there is this prevalence in this sport to act like the past never happened.

80s and 90s weren't the start of college football... Otherwise Bama would have 4 National titles and certainly wasn't the start of baseball.... Otherwise Stanford would be Goat by amount of the last 30 years appearances.

Apparently Rice sucked for most it's history. I don't care but apparently that's fact.
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 9:26 pm
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:47 pm to
Bama has never beaten RICE in football

not ever
Posted by TigerNlc
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:52 pm to
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They are as good as their coach and I guess he is finished so therefore their program is finished

LSU sucked before Skip got there. He's long gone and the program has moved on and is doing fine. A lot of good coaches will line up to take the Rice job.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
38128 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:08 pm to
Why couldn't people just say Rice is obviously a current power.

They have been.

But there is a legitimate argument that certain programs rise and fall with certain coaches.

I think inarticulately, the poster was saying Rice may have difficulty attracting players due to its spotty history. It doesn't have trophies to fall back on.
Posted by Aristocrats of BBall
Member since Mar 2017
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:32 pm to
Where did Skip come from

A winning manager that like had to learn how to win somewhere
Posted by OneMoreTime
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:38 pm to
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Stanford Baseball CWS appearances...

1953, 1965, 1967, 1981, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2008, 2011, 2012, 2014
Uhh no. That's their total tournament appearances, although they've been to the CWS a good bit.
Posted by TigerNlc
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:51 pm to
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Where did Skip come from A winning manager that like had to learn how to win somewhere

Posted by Aristocrats of BBall
Member since Mar 2017
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:52 pm to
Your Gorilla Ball is no longer apart of the game

How often have you won in the new stadium
Posted by TigerNlc
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:56 pm to
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But there is a legitimate argument that certain programs rise and fall with certain coaches.

Possibly but facilities and fan base are probably just as important. Do recruits care about the national championships LSU won before they were born? There or worst places to play your college ball than this.
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 10:57 pm
Posted by TigerNlc
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:00 pm to
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Your Gorilla Ball is no longer apart of the game How often have you won in the new stadium

They have won more recently than Miami.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
38128 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:01 pm to
Yeah LSU has a pretty cool recruiting advantage.

But UCLA facilities suck and they won a more recent championship.

I think it's history, weather, kids who grow up and are better in certain regions.

Just like better D lineman in Louisiana and Florida per capita, you get better baseball players from California.
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 11:02 pm
Posted by TigerNlc
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:11 pm to
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Yeah LSU has a pretty cool recruiting advantage. But UCLA facilities suck and they won a more recent championship. I think it's history, weather, kids who grow up and are better in certain regions. Just like better D lineman in Louisiana and Florida per capita, you get better baseball players from California. This post was edited on 3/21 at 11:02 pm

Louisiana has plenty of baseball talent. There were 3 schools in the top 25 last week and a couple other that are solid teams. Sure UCLA won more recently but stuff like that happens in baseball. Just look at Fresno St but if you look at the consistent winners they alll invest in their program.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
38128 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:26 pm to
There is talent in all states. But the concentration is a certain places.

Well we disagree.

I think the South has a big d-lineman advantage in football...And the West a big advantage in baseball talent wise, instruction at the youth level.

Plus Cali is a bigger state with better weather which is why they dominate at the Little League league level.

But my point is states matter.

And Miami can always come back...Just like LSU rose from a 50 year slumber in football... Anybody can come back. It's all geography and coaches.


This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 11:30 pm
Posted by LSUBlitzkrieg
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Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 2:13 am to
Moreover, what is wrong with Texas baseball? Rough times concurrently in football and baseball for such a traditional powerhouse.
Posted by TulaneFan
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Member since Jan 2008
14092 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:07 am to
I think the answer is simple: nothing stays the same forever. Regression is a part of sports and no program is immune to it. For example: who would have ever thought that Florida, Texas, and USC would all be bad in football at the same time? Even the most dominant teams are going to have down years.

Naturally some of the experts on this board are trying to undermine Rice's program. I honestly don't know what more they could have done. They are also one of the smallest schools in D1, so that makes their sustained success even more impressive
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 7:10 am
Posted by NOLApurpleandgold
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Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 9:15 am to
Thug U is nowhere close to LSU in baseball.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
62254 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 9:19 am to
What is wrong with Texas is basically the same thing that's wrong with Rice. Both Augie and Graham let things really slip as they got old. Texas is just one step ahead of Rice with a new coach already trying to climb out of it. He needs to build the talent base back up though and Rice will go through the same thing

Rice will be back if they don't frick up the next hire. They easily could have had Pierce a couple years ago if they wanted. It's a little tougher with TCU to compete against now but there is still so much talent in the Houston area, they just need someone who is familiar recruiting it and hungry to win unlike old man Wayne
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 9:22 am
Posted by crazyLSUfan
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 9:27 am to
You pushing for Worst Poster Award on all of Tigerdroppings, or something?
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 9:30 am to
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True.

But he said "traditional power."

That's a short time though. Is Oregon Football a traditional power despite being one of the best teams the past 15 years?

Late 90's to now is really really recent


by that definition LSU is not a traditional powerhouse. Our baseball program was garbage until the mid/late 80's but didn't win a title until the 90's.

Arguing over pronouns is fricking stupid. Rice has been one of the top programs in CBB for basically the last 2 decades, that is undeniable. Why an insecure Miami fan has popped up on here all of a sudden is a mystery.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
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Member since May 2007
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 9:46 am to
quote:

What is wrong with Rice Baseball?


Their coach is Methuselah's grandfather?
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