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re: What did Stephen A. Smith say?
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:59 pm to boom roasted
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:59 pm to boom roasted
quote:Put your feelings aside for a second--it isn't hard--and just look at what my post actually says.
I'm with you 100%. A woman should not talk back to a man because it might lead to her getting her arse kicked.
Right?
Posted on 7/26/14 at 12:09 am to ballscaster
You're grabbing the low-hanging fruit: crazy, violent women. Yes, if a woman attacks you, you should be able to defend yourself.
But let me show you how ridiculous your simple little equation is.
Husband makes bad business decision, loses all of family's money. Husband is pissed. Wife confronts husband and gets hit.
X = likelihood of wives getting hit who don't confront husbands
Y = likelihood of wives getting hit who do confront husbands
Y > X
Ergo, wives should never confront their husbands.
It's not as simple as you're making it out to be.
But let me show you how ridiculous your simple little equation is.
Husband makes bad business decision, loses all of family's money. Husband is pissed. Wife confronts husband and gets hit.
X = likelihood of wives getting hit who don't confront husbands
Y = likelihood of wives getting hit who do confront husbands
Y > X
Ergo, wives should never confront their husbands.
It's not as simple as you're making it out to be.
This post was edited on 7/26/14 at 12:13 am
Posted on 7/26/14 at 12:15 am to boom roasted
quote:But Smith's point is as simple as I'm making it out to be. I'll make it even simpler, and the following is undeniably true:
It's not as simple as you're making it out to be.
x = the likelihood of Person A striking Person B while Person B is being a loud, violent a-hole
y = the likelihood of Person A striking Person B while Person B is being nice and polite
x > y
Regardless of who you are, a universal we learn as toddlers is that it's a good idea to refrain from pissing a person off, especially when that person is bigger and stronger than you.
Another poster in this thread used the term "mitigating risk."
Posted on 7/26/14 at 12:18 am to ballscaster
I don't care enough to keep arguing.
SAS is still a shitbird.
SAS is still a shitbird.
Posted on 7/26/14 at 12:21 am to boom roasted
quote:Good. Your first response to me was very stupid.
I don't care enough to keep putting words in your mouth.
Posted on 7/26/14 at 12:28 am to ballscaster
quote:
Regardless of who you are, a universal we learn as toddlers is that it's a good idea to refrain from pissing a person off, especially when that person is bigger and stronger than you.
Smith conveyed this poorly. Particularly with a very touchy subject matter and the drama that comes with it.
Not saying a goddamned thing would have been prudent.
Posted on 7/26/14 at 12:57 am to boom roasted
quote:Then zip it.
Don't care.
Posted on 7/26/14 at 1:01 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:There is no drama that "comes with it." That drama is created by people like boom roasted who spin pragmatic comments into stupid drama shite like this:
Smith conveyed this poorly. Particularly with a very touchy subject matter and the drama that comes with it.
quote:What kind of moron would twist the things I've said into such condoning of violence?
I'm with you 100%. A woman should not talk back to a man because it might lead to her getting her arse kicked.
Right?
You are right, though. It would have been best that Stephen A. said nothing. That would always be best. I never hear him say anything since I'm not a retard who watches the network who employs him.
Posted on 7/26/14 at 1:38 am to ballscaster
quote:
There is no drama that "comes with it."
You're one ignorant mofo. Domestic violence is an extremely touchy subject.
Posted on 7/26/14 at 4:59 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Stephen A. did not commit an act of violence. He made comments. And his comments about domestic violence itself were completely in line; he had nothing less than awful things to say of the men who commit violent acts against women.
You're one ignorant mofo. Domestic violence is an extremely touchy subject.
The comments he made that drew ire were the comments that criticize some women for being assholes. That's the drama that was created out of thin air. You cannot deny that his message was that we need to do away with the animals who commit violent acts (especially those against women) and that while we're at it, it wouldn't hurt if some women took some reasonable measures in the spirit of looking out for themselves, and any drama resulting from those comments is completely manufactured by people looking for drama. boom roasted's response was that textbook "So a woman deserves to be hit if she mouths of to her husband? Got it." drama bullshite I'm talking about. These people are either dishonest or they're stupid enough to have been confused by that dummy Stephen A. Smith.
At any rate, there is nothing wrong with what he said, and there is nothing complicated with what he said. If you have an issue with someone expressing the belief that men who hit women deserve swift, hard punishment, and that some women could stand to work on how they treat people, then the issue is yours and yours alone, and nobody else needs to be fired on account of your need for drama.
This post was edited on 7/26/14 at 5:10 am
Posted on 7/26/14 at 9:55 am to ballscaster
I made the point on the poli boards thread about this.
Jay-Z and Solange in an elevator is a prime example of "provoke". I do not know what happened on Ray Rice elevator ride. Maybe Stephen does. But if a woman gets physical with a man and tries to fight like a man, then gets hit like a man? Maybe she slapped and hit him 10 times? All the while being told to stop and warned?
Women can be crazy and use the woman card to their advantage. If a woman goes for eyes or balls a mans instinctive response may be to lash out. If that man is a conditioned pro athlete that lash maybe result in a KO.
As always.... Stephen A. sucks.
Jay-Z and Solange in an elevator is a prime example of "provoke". I do not know what happened on Ray Rice elevator ride. Maybe Stephen does. But if a woman gets physical with a man and tries to fight like a man, then gets hit like a man? Maybe she slapped and hit him 10 times? All the while being told to stop and warned?
Women can be crazy and use the woman card to their advantage. If a woman goes for eyes or balls a mans instinctive response may be to lash out. If that man is a conditioned pro athlete that lash maybe result in a KO.
As always.... Stephen A. sucks.
Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:15 am to LSU alum wannabe
quote:And I'll therefore take Smith's comments even further.
Women can be crazy and use the woman card to their advantage. If a woman goes for eyes or balls a mans instinctive response may be to lash out. If that man is a conditioned pro athlete that lash maybe result in a KO.
Men, don't hit.
Women, don't be crazy bitches.
Men, make crazy bitches outcasts. Don't hang around them. When they're being crazy bitches, shame them instead of persist in trying to frick them. A sane 6 is more valuable than an insane 10, and she's better in and out of bed.
Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:17 am to bbap
quote:
just read all of that and realized i really dont give a frick about any of this.
Thanks for helping me rationalize my own thoughts.

Also, what a poorly written piece of garbage.
Posted on 7/26/14 at 11:11 am to boom roasted
quote:
A woman should not talk back to a man because it might lead to her getting her arse kicked.
No, a woman should behave like a civilized human being. Doing so will mitigate her risk of being physically assaulted. Men can follow the same advice.
This post was edited on 7/26/14 at 11:17 am
Posted on 7/26/14 at 11:12 am to ballscaster
quote:
Stephen A. did not commit an act of violence. He made comments. And his comments about domestic violence itself were completely in line
In today's society, keeping the trap shut is more prudent than expressing ambiguous ideas on assault victims. It's very easy to see where victims could draw conclusions that they are being blamed.
Posted on 7/26/14 at 11:18 am to Goldrush25
quote:
No, a woman should behave like a civilized human being. Doing so will mitigate her risk of being physically assaulted.
Agree. Some women (key word being some) probably know in their head that this guy cant hit me so i can do whatever the hell I want. Thats really the only reason i would not have a problem with what stephen a said. No one ever asks what the girl did, ever. The guy still shouldnt ever hit her, but knowing what the girl did should be taken into some consideration
Posted on 7/26/14 at 11:42 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Of course this is true, but Smith said nothing ambiguous. He called men who hit women "evil," and said that some women need to behave better. What's the goddamn problem?
In today's society, keeping the trap shut is more prudent than expressing ambiguous ideas on assault victims.
quote:I know. It's easy to play pretend.
It's very easy to see where victims could draw conclusions that they are being blamed.
Posted on 7/26/14 at 11:48 am to ballscaster
quote:
Of course this is true, but Smith said nothing ambiguous. He called men who hit women "evil," and said that some women need to behave better. What's the goddamn problem?
Thats how i saw it
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