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re: We all just watched the greatest college football team of all time

Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:27 am to
Posted by slackster
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Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:27 am to
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Schedules then were 11 games. There were fewer rent a win games and teams played 6 hone 5 road games.

Much easier to have a winning record now when most power school have 8 home, 1 neutral site and 3 road games with 3 games at hone against rent a wins

You just have to go 4-5 against legit competition to have a winning record. 3-6 to make a bowl game

Numbers are inflated now due to schedule changes



Winning records are basically a zero sum game. It's no easier to do it now than it was at any point in CFB.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:28 am to
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then why are exactly 0 teams in CFB running that i-form option these days?



Because it takes talent to run it effectively and there are very few 5-star WRs and QBs in 2020 who would commit to your program to run that kind of an offense. It's a passing game now and every college, including Alabama, has had to adjust to it.

I doubt we'll be seeing RBs like Derrick Henry, Leonard Fournette, Bo Jackson, and Herschel Walker dominate the way they did for a long, long time.

This post was edited on 1/14/20 at 7:32 am
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:31 am to
My favorite part of this thread has been people saying, with conviction, how the teams would do against one another.

One thing for sure, neither defense has seen the kind of offense they'd face.
Posted by beaverfever
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Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:32 am to
I think you could take a lot of old arse run-based concepts and briefly dominate in college football if you could get the modern talent pool interested in doing it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:34 am to
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Because it takes talent to run it effectively and there are very few 5-star WRs and QBs in 2020 who would commit to your program to run that kind of an offense

it doesn't work in modern CFB

2001 Miami buried that offense and it has NEVER come back

we're talking almost 20 years at this point and nobody has ever tried to resurrect that i-form option

Ga Tech had a variant of it and...once the gimmick shine wore off was a total failure

the absolute worst part about those pure option offense from under center is that they're absolute death in bowl games against good teams. give a good team 3 weeks to prepare for the option and it's over. it works as a gimmick change of pace that you only see once a year, but structurally in CFB, with how the title is determined, it's death in the post season
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:45 am to
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Record vs everyone but LSU
Clemson (14-0)
Oklahoma (12-1)
Georgia (12-1)
Alabama (11-1)
Florida (11-1)
Total (60-4)

They combined to go 0-5 vs LSU and were outscored by 98 points in those games.


-Paul Hembekides on Twitter.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:50 am to
it's funny how a few random things would REALLY sway perception

if we don't have mental midget games against Vandy and Ole Miss or allow 2 garbage TDs v Bama, it changes things

just the 2 garbage Bama TDs makes that MOV you posted a bit larger and removes one close (on paper) game

so it's legit like, i don't know, 10 plays...2 in games that didn't matter nor were ever in doubt
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:54 am to
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it doesn't work in modern CFB

2001 Miami buried that offense and it has NEVER come back



Nebraska didn't even belong in that game to begin with. It should have been Oregon. Nebraska was crushed by Colorado 62-37 in the final game of the regular season.

And Alabama was still running that offense under Fran. We were pretty damn good with it, too.

This post was edited on 1/14/20 at 7:55 am
Posted by ProfFrink
Springfield
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:59 am to
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Nebraska didn't even belong in that game to begin with. It should have been Oregon.


As a Husker fan I agree 100%. Never belonged.

If Tennessee doesnt lose to LSU they may have had a case as well.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:14 am to
These are the same stupid arguments we heard all season long about how this team would do that and we really weren’t that great. Then everytime we lined up we whipped people and made them eat their words. Same thing applies to this argument, these idiots just refuse to believe what’s right in front of them but once the proper amount of time passes nobody will be able to debate it. The numbers and accomplishments speak for themselves and history is on our side.
Posted by ProfFrink
Springfield
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Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:19 am to
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The numbers and accomplishments speak for themselves and history is on our side.


Except that no one cane close to Nebraska that year. They dismantled the #2 team 62-24 while LSU had 3 close games and gave up a ton of yards to two mediocre teams (Ole Miss, Vandy).

Nebraska dominate every team in every aspect in every game. LSU can’t claim that

LSU has earned their place as a great team though. They will never be known as the GOAT though.
Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:20 am to
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LSU has earned their place as a great team though. They will never be known as the GOAT though.


Most in college football disagree with you
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47649 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:24 am to
Like i said let us play in that pop warner league and wedve averaged 70. Let’s be honest, you’re basing all of this on one game, the fiasco bowl which of course is a false equivalence. The bottom line is if you match the teams up man for man as well as schematically LSU has you outgunned by a mile. Now I can admit the option can be an equalizer in some cases but in this case Nebraska 95 simply doesn’t have the secondary or front to stop LSU.
This post was edited on 1/14/20 at 8:26 am
Posted by ProfFrink
Springfield
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Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:26 am to
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Most in college football disagree with you


Haven’t seen that. General opinion I’ve read elsewhere is that they have earned a place among the greats.

Even the advocate is saying greatest season not greatest team.

Sorry but you can’t have close games and call yourself the GOAT. That is why history will still view 95 Nebraska as the most dominate team in history.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:27 am to
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Most in college football disagree with you



We're less than 12 hours removed from the end of the game. Let's wait until people have caught their breath. Many people were referring to 2018 Clemson as the greatest team of all-time in the aftermath of last year's championship game, too.

Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:27 am to
And you can’t play cupcakes and call yourself the GOAT
Posted by ProfFrink
Springfield
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:29 am to
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And you can’t play cupcakes and call yourself the GOAT


Agreed.

Nebraska had 3 ooc games. 2 were against P5 schools. 2 cupcake.

LSU had 4 ooc games. 3 cupcakes.

No FCS teams on that Husker schedule either.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47649 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:30 am to
LSU beat 7 top 10 teams, an NCAA record. Your mental gymnastics can’t outflank reality.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:31 am to
Durrrrr 95 Nebraska!

LSU wipes the floor with that team
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47649 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:34 am to
What’s sad is of the cupcakes we played there were as many NFL prospects at QB as the Big 8 schedule you guys faced lol.
This post was edited on 1/14/20 at 8:36 am
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