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re: VT Claims Wilson runs a sub-4.3 40

Posted on 11/17/11 at 8:10 pm to
Posted by 7thWardTiger
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Posted on 11/17/11 at 8:10 pm to
He's plenty fast. I say a 4.33
Posted by trackfan
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Posted on 11/17/11 at 8:15 pm to
Let me put this in perspective. At the 2009 NCAA Indoor Track & Field Championships, Clemson's Jacoby Ford won the 60-meter dash and Trindon Holliday was the runner-up. At the 2009 Outdoor Championships, Holliday won with a time of 10.00 seconds (Ford pulled a hamstring) which was and still is the fastest time in history for an active football player at any level. At the 2010 NFL Combine, Ford had the fastest time of the whole event and Holliday had the second fastest. Ford's time: 4.28s. Holliday's time: 4.34s.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/17/11 at 8:16 pm to
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Jacoby Ford won the 60-meter dash and Trindon Holliday was the runner-up. At the 2009 Outdoor Championships, Holliday won with a time of 10.00 seconds

shittiest 60m dash in history?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/17/11 at 8:19 pm to
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Wilson is a legit track star.

does he run anything other than the triple jump?
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
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Posted on 11/17/11 at 8:20 pm to
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which was and still is the fastest time in history for an active football player at any level.
no it's not.....unless you're not counting wind-aided times.
Posted by trackfan
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Posted on 11/17/11 at 8:28 pm to
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no it's not.....unless you're not counting wind-aided times.

Of course I'm not counting wind-aided times. Why would I? People that follow track don't recognize wind-aided times as something to brag about. That's why those times always have a "w" behind them.
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
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Posted on 11/17/11 at 8:31 pm to
Just glanced at Trindon's wiki page (don't know if it's correct or not), but according to his page it says that his personal best 100 of 10even was actually wind-aided itself.
Posted by trackfan
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Posted on 11/17/11 at 8:31 pm to
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shittiest 60m dash in history?

He ran 6.51s, a meet record and the third fastest sea-level time in BCAA history.
Posted by medtiger
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Posted on 11/17/11 at 8:34 pm to
Am I the only one in this thread that thinks the 40 is really overrated when it comes to evaluating football players?
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
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Posted on 11/17/11 at 8:35 pm to
So what's Trindon's best 100 (non wind-aided) time?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/17/11 at 8:36 pm to
who uses the 40 alone to evaluate football players?
Posted by trackfan
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Posted on 11/17/11 at 8:36 pm to
Trindon has run 10.00 multiple times, all wind-legal. His best winded-aided time is 9.98s. Check out the IAAF's men's 100 meter performance list from 2009.

LINK
Posted by trackfan
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Posted on 11/17/11 at 8:37 pm to
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So what's Trindon's best 100 (non wind-aided) time?

10.00 seconds
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/17/11 at 8:38 pm to
the 100 doesn't translate as well to 40, fwiw

the 100 involves a lot of gaining speed after the first 40yards. ford would probably beat bolt in the first 40 yards
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
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Posted on 11/17/11 at 8:39 pm to
those are both wind-aided
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 11/17/11 at 8:45 pm to
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who uses the 40 alone to evaluate football players?



Al Davis
Posted by medtiger
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Posted on 11/17/11 at 8:50 pm to
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who uses the 40 alone to evaluate football players?


When did I say someone used it alone?

It's just really far down the list on things I would use. I'm more interested in watching film of them playing football. If a player plays in the SEC, for instance, I wouldn't even look at 40 time. The only time I think it's really useful is for FCS or DII prospects because they aren't playing against legit competition.

Example...I have no clue what Mo Claiborne runs in the 40, but if you told me he ran a 4.3 or a 4.55, I wouldn't give a shite because he obviously can play against big time athletes.
This post was edited on 11/17/11 at 8:53 pm
Posted by dchevy
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 11/17/11 at 8:53 pm to
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GUESS WHAT HIS ACTUAL 40 WILL BE


4.32, he's fast
This post was edited on 11/17/11 at 8:58 pm
Posted by Woopigsooie20
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Posted on 11/17/11 at 8:54 pm to
Joe Adams runs a 3.89.


FACT
Posted by trackfan
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Posted on 11/17/11 at 8:57 pm to
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those are both wind-aided

You're wrong. FYI, the winded-aided designation requires a wind of greater than 2.0 meters per second. Here is a list of the dates on which Holliday ran 10.00 in 2009 followed by the place and wind reading:

6/10/2009, Fayetteville, 1.4
6/12/2009, Fayetteville, 0.3

In addition to 10.00, he ran a wind-legal 10.01 in 2009:

5/17/2009, Gainesville, 1.1
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