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re: UNO vs #2 Louisiana l 6 PM l
Posted on 4/7/14 at 6:50 pm to hill durham
Posted on 4/7/14 at 6:50 pm to hill durham
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hill durham
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Posted on 4/7/14 at 6:52 pm to Cajunese
I swear you people wait until this thread is about to go to page 2, then you post something and wait for hill Durham to say something stupid, and then you will all say look: 612 pages of not caring
Posted on 4/7/14 at 7:44 pm to joeleblanc
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HOW did LSU become the flagship university?
Self designation? Legislature? Governor? Earned thru superior academics? HOW???
The answer can't be found....
Well legislation technically made us the flagship university, but beyond a pure legislative point we became the Flagship by being here first.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 7:47 pm to joeleblanc
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Well first we are public university, and amongst those we are the:
Largest
Oldest Public (technically Tulane used to be Louisiana but then they went private)
Most recognized
Best academically
best athletically
and we
Have a law school and a medical school
Have more graduate programs
Also
Huey Long
In the state capital.
Fantastic!!! Great!
But the question STILL isn't answered.
HOW did LSU become the flagship university?
Self designation? Legislature? Governor? Earned thru superior academics? HOW???
The answer can't be found....
LSU is the flagship because it is the only Land and Sea Grant Institute in the state
Posted on 4/7/14 at 7:55 pm to fleaux
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then you post something
what was said?
Posted on 4/7/14 at 8:40 pm to gaetti15
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LSU is the flagship because it is the only Land and Sea Grant Institute in the state
So you are saying that because of a grant from the government is what made LSU a flagship university?
Posted on 4/7/14 at 8:43 pm to joeleblanc
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So you are saying that because of a grant from the government is what made LSU a flagship university?
Were are the flagship because we are the biggest and oldest public university in the state.
boom answer.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 8:46 pm to SammyTiger
as far as i can find, there is no documentation to say why its the flagship. none.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 8:49 pm to joeleblanc
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as far as i can find, there is no documentation to say why its the flagship. none.
we seem to fit the definition
LINK
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The College Board, for example, defines flagship universities as the best-known institutions in the state, noting that they were generally the first to be established and are frequently the largest and most selective, as well as the most research-intensive public universities.
This post was edited on 4/7/14 at 8:54 pm
Posted on 4/7/14 at 8:52 pm to SammyTiger
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are disputing that we are the flagship? Because y'all are kinda fricking up if its you.
No, not disputing it at all. But until someone, anyone can produce how it came to be(i'm not buying the land/sea grant), i'm beginning to think it was self proclaimed, not earned, nor even by the generosity of the legislature
Posted on 4/7/14 at 8:54 pm to joeleblanc
I changed my post to better answer.
There is a general definition, we fit it.
There is a general definition, we fit it.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 8:54 pm to joeleblanc
Every fricking thread.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 8:57 pm to joeleblanc
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nor even by the generosity of the legislature
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RS 17:3215
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PART III. UNIVERSITY SYSTEMS §3215.
Louisiana State University system The Louisiana State University system is composed of the institutions under the supervision and management of the Board of Supervisors of Louisiana State University and Agricultural and Mechanical College as follows:
(1) Louisiana State University and Agricultural and Mechanical College, located at Baton Rouge and designated as the premier flagship university for the state.
(2) Repealed by Acts 2011, No. 419, §2, eff. July 12, 2011.
(3) Louisiana State University at Alexandria, located at Chambers.
(4) Louisiana State University at Eunice.
(5) Louisiana State University at Shreveport.
(6) Louisiana State University Health Sciences Center at New Orleans, which shall include medical and related health schools and programs located in New Orleans including those state's medical centers transferred to the Board of Supervisors of Louisiana State University and Agricultural and Mechanical College as provided in Subpart C-2 of Part II of Chapter 4 of this Title, subject to provisions of R.S. 17:1519 et seq.
(7) Louisiana State University Health Sciences Center at Shreveport, which shall include the medical school and related schools at Shreveport, Louisiana State University Hospital at Shreveport, E. A. Conway Medical Center at Monroe, and Huey P. Long Medical Center in Pineville.
(8) The Center for Agricultural Sciences and Rural Development which administers the agricultural extension and research programs of the board throughout the state. The center shall also be responsible for conducting river water research.
(9) Any other college, university, school, institution or program now or hereafter under the supervision and management of the Board of Supervisors of Louisiana State University and Agricultural and Mechanical College.
Added by Acts 1975, No. 313, §2, eff. July 17, 1975. Amended by Acts 1976, No. 385, §1, eff. Oct. 1, 1976; Acts 1991, No. 987, §1; Acts 1995, No. 45, §1, eff. June 8, 1995; Acts 1995, No. 634, §1, eff. June 20, 1995; Acts 1997, No. 3, §1, eff. July 1, 1997; Acts 1999, No. 802, §1, eff. July 2, 1999; Acts 2003, No. 872, §1, eff. July 1, 2003; Acts 2005, No. 145, §1, eff. July 1, 2005; Acts 2007, No. 220, §1, eff. July 2, 2007; Acts 2011, No. 419, §2, eff. July 12, 2011. NOTE: Acts 1995, No. 634, §3 provides that Act 634 shall prevail over any conflicting Act of the same session. NOTE: See Acts 2003, No. 872, §3, relative to provisions of Acts 2003, No. 906, superceding Act 872.
Revised Statutes
This post was edited on 4/7/14 at 9:11 pm
Posted on 4/7/14 at 9:01 pm to Smalls
thanks for the link
state universities often self-designate themselves as flagships
state universities often self-designate themselves as flagships
Posted on 4/7/14 at 9:02 pm to Smalls
I heard that they intend to disrupt the Lafayette Super Regional with a public reading of a cease and desist letter, followed by the confiscation of all UL baseball caps.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 9:07 pm to joeleblanc
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nor even by the generosity of the legislature
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RS 49:1101
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CHAPTER 16. NAMING STATE STATUTORY ENTITIES, AGENCIES, DEPARTMENTS, OFFICES AND BUDGET UNITS
§1101. Naming state statutory entities, agencies, departments, offices, or budget units
A. Except as designated by the Constitution of Louisiana or as provided in R.S. 49:215(D) or Subsection B of this Section, no statutory entity, as defined in R.S. 49:190, or "agency", "department", or "office", as defined in R.S. 36:3, or budget unit, as that term is used in Part II of Chapter 1 of Subtitle I of Title 39 of the Louisiana Revised Statutes of 1950, shall be named or renamed except by a law enacted by the legislature. Organizational units of the executive branch of state government shall be designated by terminology as provided in R.S. 36:9.
B.(1) The powers, duties, and responsibilities of the Board of Regents for all public higher education pursuant to Article VIII, Section 5 of the Constitution of Louisiana shall include the power and authority to name or rename institutions of public higher education.
(2)(a) Notwithstanding the provisions of Subsection C of this Section, the Board of Regents, or its successor, shall change the name of any university designated in R.S. 17:3217 (1) through (9) to the "University of Louisiana at (its geographic location)" or its current name provided said name change is requested by the chief executive officer of the university, which, provided all requirements of this Paragraph have been complied with, shall be approved by both the Board of Trustees for State Colleges and Universities and the Board of Regents. Any such name change shall in no way affect the status of Louisiana State University and Agricultural and Mechanical College as the premier flagship university for the state.
(b) The provisions of this Paragraph shall be implemented and become effective provided no less than two institutions make a request for and are approved to change the institutional name pursuant to Subparagraph (a) of this Paragraph.
(c) Nothing contained in this Paragraph, or in any other provision of law, shall authorize the Board of Regents, or its successor, to change the name of any university unless the chief executive officer of that university presents to that board an express written request for that change of name. The Board of Regents, or its successor, shall not force or coerce any chief executive officer of any university to request a change of name for that university.
(d) With regard to Grambling State University, the Board of Regents, or its successor, shall not take any action to change the name of Grambling State University unless the name change has been approved by a majority of the alumni voting in a referendum on that question at the annual meeting of the Alumni Association, by a majority of the student body voting in a referendum on that question, and by a majority of the Faculty Senate voting in a referendum on that question, and the president of Grambling State University has issued a written statement concurring in the actions of the alumni, the students, and the faculty.
C. Any contrary action taken by any management board of higher education notwithstanding, the names of the public institutions of higher education in the state of Louisiana shall be, on the effective date of this Section, as provided by the legislature in R.S. 17:3215 through 17:3217. Prior to naming any newly-created or renaming any existing institution of public education, the Board of Regents shall obtain legislative approval of any proposed name or name change by concurrent resolution adopted by a vote of at least a majority of the membership of each house of the legislature.
Acts 1984, No. 656, §1; Acts 1987, No. 736, §2; Acts 1995, No. 45, §2, eff. June 8, 1995; Acts 1995, No. 634, §2, eff. June 20, 1995; Acts 1998, 1st Ex. Sess., No. 151, §2, eff. July 1, 1999; Acts 2013, No. 220, §23, eff. June 11, 2013.
NOTE: See Acts 1995, No. 634, §3.
Revised Statutes
This post was edited on 4/7/14 at 9:10 pm
Posted on 4/7/14 at 9:17 pm to Smalls
that's naming rights...from what i have read, from Forever LSU, it was a 'vision' that was launched. So i am presuming it was a self designation.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 9:17 pm to joeleblanc
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as far as i can find, there is no documentation to say why its the flagship. none.
People really care about this shite?
Posted on 4/7/14 at 9:21 pm to joeleblanc
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thanks for the link
No problem. I personally have no issue with UL Lafayette angling for the "University of Louisiana" title. I just think a name change in and of itself does not accomplish what "UL" people think it will. I've said it before, but it takes a lot more than just a name change. You've got to raise admission standards, add graduate programs (masters level and doctorate level), increase faculty salaries (and demand quality research, publications, etc.), upgrade the physical plant, and raise tuition.
In the end, although some of our universities need to be closed, I would like to see all of our state universities (including LSU) strive for greatness in both academia and athletics, not silly bickering over names.
We often forget that the ONLY mission of our universities is to provide education to the people of Louisiana.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 9:22 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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I heard that they intend to disrupt the Lafayette Super Regional with a public reading of a cease and desist letter, followed by the confiscation of all UL baseball caps
Come on, man.
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