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re: UFC 97 predictions
Posted on 4/15/09 at 3:00 pm to deucedwo
Posted on 4/15/09 at 3:00 pm to deucedwo
Anderson Silva (23-4;) vs. Thales Leites (14-1)
-Mauricio "Shogun" Rua (17-3) vs. Chuck Liddell (21-6)
-Luiz Cane (9-1) vs. Steve Cantwell (7-1)
-Cheick Kongo (13-4-1) vs. Antoni Hardonk (8-4)
-Brian Stann (6-1) vs. Krzysztof Soszynski (16-8-1)
Preliminary Bouts:
-Nathan Quarry (10-3) vs. Jason MacDonald (21-11)
-Denis Kang (31-11-1) vs. Xavier Fouka-Pokum (20-9)
-David Loiseau (18-8) vs. Ed Herman (16-7)
-T.J. Grant (13-2) vs. Ryo Chonan (15-9)
-Mark Bocek (6-2) vs. David Bielkheden (13-6)
-Matt Wiman (11-5) vs. Sam Stout (13-5-1)
-Eliot Marshall (7-3) vs. Vinny Magalhaes (6-4)
-Mauricio "Shogun" Rua (17-3) vs. Chuck Liddell (21-6)
-Luiz Cane (9-1) vs. Steve Cantwell (7-1)
-Cheick Kongo (13-4-1) vs. Antoni Hardonk (8-4)
-Brian Stann (6-1) vs. Krzysztof Soszynski (16-8-1)
Preliminary Bouts:
-Nathan Quarry (10-3) vs. Jason MacDonald (21-11)
-Denis Kang (31-11-1) vs. Xavier Fouka-Pokum (20-9)
-David Loiseau (18-8) vs. Ed Herman (16-7)
-T.J. Grant (13-2) vs. Ryo Chonan (15-9)
-Mark Bocek (6-2) vs. David Bielkheden (13-6)
-Matt Wiman (11-5) vs. Sam Stout (13-5-1)
-Eliot Marshall (7-3) vs. Vinny Magalhaes (6-4)
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Posted on 4/15/09 at 3:02 pm to Palm Beach Tiger
quote:
Who has better BJJ then Vinny in that weight class?
Oh in that weight class? I thought you were talking across MMA, my bad.
Posted on 4/15/09 at 3:22 pm to John Doe
I would say Damon Maia has the best BJJ in MMA. I know Cash would agree with me.
Posted on 4/15/09 at 3:28 pm to The Ramp
I think Xande, Jacare, Marcelo Garcia, Roger Gracie and Andre Galvao would also have to be included if we are talking just BJJ.
Posted on 4/15/09 at 3:30 pm to John Doe
quote:
I think Xande, Jacare, Marcelo Garcia, Roger Gracie and Andre Galvao would also have to be included if we are talking just BJJ.
i don't know any of those guys. do they fight mma or just strictly bjj?
Posted on 4/15/09 at 3:33 pm to The Ramp
They all have fought mma. I think Galvao 3-0 and Jacare 10-2 have the most potential, IMO.
Posted on 4/15/09 at 3:42 pm to John Doe
Posted on 4/15/09 at 3:44 pm to Palm Beach Tiger
quote:
I think Vinny's BJJ would top anyone's in MMA probably
Pure BJJ in the LHW division yes, MMABJJ no. There is a difference.
Posted on 4/15/09 at 3:51 pm to John Doe
quote:
I think Xande, Jacare, Marcelo Garcia, Roger Gracie and Andre Galvao would also have to be included if we are talking just BJJ
Add Robert Drysdale to that list as soon as he starts fighting mma which will be very soon.
Posted on 4/15/09 at 3:51 pm to Maximus
After the fight or before? Cause the video says before
And did I just see Jermiah Riggs on Daisy of Love link at the top? the hell?
And did I just see Jermiah Riggs on Daisy of Love link at the top? the hell?
Posted on 4/15/09 at 3:52 pm to John Doe
quote:
And did I just see Jermiah Riggs on Daisy of Love link at the top? the hell?
Big Rigg
Posted on 4/15/09 at 3:53 pm to Cash
quote:
Add Robert Drysdale to that list as soon as he starts fighting mma which will be very soon.
no doubt, I had him in mind. I think he had one amateur bout he won by armbar. Not sure what weight he is going to be at.
Posted on 4/15/09 at 3:55 pm to John Doe
your right. the asswipe who started the thread on sherdog said after but it was before
Posted on 4/15/09 at 3:59 pm to John Doe
quote:
Not sure what weight he is going to be at.
He should be able to cut to MW if he wants too?
quote:
I am somewhere between 6'2" and 6'3". My natural weight is around 210 pounds and 215 pounds but I am walking around now at 205 because I am dropping weight.
LINK
Posted on 4/15/09 at 4:04 pm to Cash
Yeah, I think he'd be best at MW. Not sure if he'd want to cut that much weight right off the bat. I don't think he cuts much less than that 205 for BJJ. Could be wrong though.
Posted on 4/15/09 at 4:06 pm to John Doe
Looks like he doesn't cut anything at all for bjj. He normally fights in the 99kg class for bjj which equals about 218 pounds.
I bet he fights at LHW at first, and if he gets out muscled he will cut to MW.
I bet he fights at LHW at first, and if he gets out muscled he will cut to MW.
Posted on 4/15/09 at 4:11 pm to Cash
Well I wanna say he won the mundials at 94kg, 207lbs. Plus you have to weigh in with your gi on. So then that extra weight depends on his gi. So I figured he had to cut to around 202ish. eta: Gi and No-Gi have different weight classes.
100% agree.
quote:
I bet he fights at LHW at first, and if he gets out muscled he will cut to MW.
100% agree.
This post was edited on 4/15/09 at 4:13 pm
Posted on 4/15/09 at 4:11 pm to The Ramp
quote:
I would say Damon Maia has the best BJJ in MMA. I know Cash would agree with me.
I can agree with that as well.
One thing that did strike me after his last fight was when he said that he liked how he can beat his opponents without really hurting them. I just wonder how he will fare if he ever gets into a war in there with somebody.
Posted on 4/15/09 at 4:29 pm to Cash
quote:
Pure BJJ in the LHW division yes, MMABJJ no. There is a difference.
Well that was what I was talking about. MMABJJ would have elements of wrestling involved as well IMO along with defending stuff that isn't BJJ with BJJ.
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