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re: UFC 313: Pereira vs Ankalaev

Posted on 3/9/25 at 12:34 am to
Posted by Mizzoufan26
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Posted on 3/9/25 at 12:34 am to
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17 strike difference over the span of five rounds is even. Also have to weigh the impact of the strikes. Most of the work Pereira did was inconsequential, whereas Ank’s hands had the former champ running.


Not when it’s 33% more than the other person landed and we’re siooosed to somehow believe the person with less went 3/2 and 4/1
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 3/9/25 at 12:34 am to
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They're not giving him credit for takedowns. They're giving him credit for control and strikes in the clench. Absent enough strikes of Pereira's own, that's all you have to score a round.
post after post from that dude and he keeps demonstrating he clearly has no idea what he’s talking about lol
Posted by hashtag
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Posted on 3/9/25 at 12:35 am to
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17 strike difference over the span of five rounds is even. Also have to weigh the impact of the strikes.
except those stats are wrong. Ank landed more strikes and attempted more strikes and significant strikes than Alex.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 3/9/25 at 12:36 am to
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so a champ can just keep a belt by kicking someone in the leg and then throwing 15 punches a round after that? Why are you acting like Ank didn't do enough in striking when he out threw and out landed Alex in both significant and other strikes, and had more impactful moments striking?

BeCaUsE hE DiDnT gO OuT SwainGinG

I WaNtEd a BRAWL!!!
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 3/9/25 at 12:37 am to
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They're giving him credit for control and strikes in the clench. Absent enough strikes of Pereira's own, that's all you have to score a round.



Again, I understand the logic behind the scoring. I’m just saying title fights should be held to a much higher standard.

After a fight like that, I’d rather they vacate the belt as punishment to the champ for a shitty fight and schedule a rematch to the challenger with the challenge of performing better than hand the belt over. Alex looked like shite and Ark landed one impressive punch in the second round. Other than that nothing of note happened the entire fight. Both fighters should be punished.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 3/9/25 at 12:38 am to
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That fight was boring as shite.

You know what encourages shitty, boring fights? Letting the champ retain his belt just because he defended some takedowns and never did anything significant offensively. He lost the majority of the rounds. Period. If he just took a couple more risk in order to land a couple more shots, he’s still the champ, but he didn’t choose to do that for whatever reason.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 3/9/25 at 12:38 am to
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so a champ can just keep a belt by kicking someone in the leg and then throwing 15 punches a round after that?


I’d rather if they vacated the belt altogether and told them to rematch for it.
Posted by hashtag
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Posted on 3/9/25 at 12:39 am to
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Not when it’s 33% more than the other person landed and we’re siooosed to somehow believe the person with less went 3/2 and 4/1
except those stats aren't real. Go look them up yourself on the UFC site.
Posted by hashtag
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Posted on 3/9/25 at 12:42 am to
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I’d rather if they vacated the belt altogether and told them to rematch for it.
they have a solution for fights that are even, ya know? They even have a name for it when the fight is split down the middle.

But it wasn't even tonight, so they didn't judge it as even. They rewarded the guy who landed more significant strikes, hurt his opponent more often, and had more octagon control.
Posted by shutterspeed
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Posted on 3/9/25 at 12:43 am to
So Alex is pretty much resigned to a rematch with Ank at LW for his next fight, right? Not only losing, but losing in this fashion, has to have killed any chances for a Jones/Aspinall fight or any mystique for a Duplesis fight. Dudes were lined up like a Jake Paul fight wanting a superfight with him before tonight.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 3/9/25 at 12:43 am to
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If he just took a couple more risk in order to land a couple more shots, he’s still the champ, but he didn’t choose to do that for whatever reason.

I agree. Both fighters did basically nothing for the majority of the fight. Disappointing night.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
16920 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 12:47 am to
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They rewarded the guy who landed more significant strikes, hurt his opponent more often, and had more octagon control.

They want you to ignore all of that and let the champ keep his belt because the fight wasn’t as exciting as they wanted it to be. Then they are going to complain about championship fights being boring when there’s no incentive for the champ to take any risks or be aggressive.
This post was edited on 3/9/25 at 12:48 am
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 3/9/25 at 12:49 am to
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they have a solution for fights that are even, ya know? They even have a name for it when the fight is split down the middle. But it wasn't even tonight, so they didn't judge it as even. They rewarded the guy who landed more significant strikes, hurt his opponent more often, and had more octagon control


Yeah I get it. I don’t think either one of them deserved to be rewarded. I’m not arguing that Alex should’ve won. He didn’t. I’m saying neither of them should’ve won. Dana should just come out after a fight like that and say you both fought like shite and that was a pathetic title match. Do better next time.

I understand rationally and logically why the fight was scored the way it was. I’m just saying it was a shitty disappointing fight.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 3/9/25 at 12:51 am to
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They want you to ignore all of that and let the champ keep his belt because the fight wasn’t as exciting as they wanted it to be. Then they are going to complain about championship fights being boring when there’s no incentive for the champ to take any risks or be aggressive.


My suggestion was not to let Alex keep the belt. It was to vacate the belt and force them to rematch for it. That would guarantee you give your absolute all to every title fight.
Posted by Minden tiger
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Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 3/9/25 at 12:52 am to
On a separate note…Fighting Nerds, unreal. Prates, Ruffy, Borrahlio, Silva..all legit killers.
Posted by PeteRose
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 3/9/25 at 2:27 am to
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I agree. Both fighters did basically nothing for the majority of the fight. Disappointing night.


Ank was close to end the fight end of R2, he was pressuring Pereira the whole fight, controlling him. A side from a few strikes landed in R5, Pereira didn’t do much. All that talk about Ank’s leg getting chew up, he took it pretty well and delivered some goods ones of his own.

When did the last time anyone see Pereira backpedaling like this?
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:55 am to
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Ark landed one impressive punch in the second round. Other than that nothing of note happened the entire fight. Both fighters should be punished.

Holy shite lol
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:58 am to
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I’m just saying it was a shitty disappointing fight.

What exactly are you looking for?

MoAr BlOoD!!

Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 9:17 am to
I know some are wah-wahing about me being mean to you here and you yourself melted about it, but there’s really no getting around you being an absolutely low IQ fight viewer based in LITERALLY the things you keep saying. Maybe stick to LSU sports? You’re clearly out of your element here.

And sure y’all keep crying about me calling this dude out. But any real fight fan that knows what they are watching, cannot take what this dude is saying seriously. Dana White would absolutely laugh at you and tell you how much of an idiot you are.

What a complete clown lol

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My suggestion was not to let Alex keep the belt. It was to vacate the belt and force them to rematch for it. That would guarantee you give your absolute all to every title fight.
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I’m just saying it was a shitty disappointing fight.
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Dana should just come out after a fight like that and say you both fought like shite and that was a pathetic title match.
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Both fighters did basically nothing for the majority of the fight. Disappointing night.
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Ark landed one impressive punch in the second round. Other than that nothing of note happened the entire fight. B
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That’s what I’m saying. Can you really give him credit or call him the victor if despite all his efforts he never succeeded?
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That’s what I’m saying. Can you really give him credit or call him the victor if despite all his efforts he never succeeded?
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If you’re going to allow holding someone against the cage to be a tactic to victory you have to reform the octagon structure itself or the refereeing.
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But Stalling and failing takedowns shouldn’t earn you a belt. That’s just my opinion, but you should have to go earn a belt from the Champ not just be handed one because you flopped around long enough.
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He had Alex rocked a couple times. Put it all on the line and go out swinging. Winning a boring arse fight decision after spending two rounds lieing against the cage just sucks.


This post was edited on 3/9/25 at 9:19 am
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
13455 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 9:27 am to
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I know some are wah-wahing about me being mean to you here and you yourself melted about it, but there’s really no getting around you being an absolutely low IQ fight viewer based in LITERALLY the things you keep saying. Maybe stick to LSU sports? You’re clearly out of your element here.


Honestly, I don’t think anyone is disagreeing with you 100%

You just come across as a douchebag, that’s all. I have no clue why you act the way you do. You make decent points but you act like such a child that there’s no reason in even trying to chat with you



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