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UCLA's choice
Posted on 11/17/12 at 10:57 pm
Posted on 11/17/12 at 10:57 pm
I accidentally posted this on the SEC Rant; so here it is:
Stanford just knocked Oregon out of the BCS game. Now, they play UCLA next week, with the Pac 12 North on the line.
Remember, UCLA is already in the Pac 12 title game, win or lose. What they are doing is deciding who they play, to get a chance for the Rose Bowl.
Remember this, too: UCLA is coached by Jim Mora Jr, a guy with NFL experience. He's used to rematches. He has a decision to make- does he play all-out to win, and face Oregon, with the best offense in the country; or does he play it crafty, and play to find Stanford's weaknesses?
Consider this- most geniuses would say UCLA would be a closer underdog to Stanford than to Oregon; and Mora already knows how to play a rematch. He can scout Stanford out and see what they can do, and then get a second chance to play for real: for the Rose.
Ideally, I'm sure he'd like to win out both games, but realistically, I can see him making the call to go 2-for-1 against Stanford. And there's nothing the NCAA can do about it.
your thoughts?
Stanford just knocked Oregon out of the BCS game. Now, they play UCLA next week, with the Pac 12 North on the line.
Remember, UCLA is already in the Pac 12 title game, win or lose. What they are doing is deciding who they play, to get a chance for the Rose Bowl.
Remember this, too: UCLA is coached by Jim Mora Jr, a guy with NFL experience. He's used to rematches. He has a decision to make- does he play all-out to win, and face Oregon, with the best offense in the country; or does he play it crafty, and play to find Stanford's weaknesses?
Consider this- most geniuses would say UCLA would be a closer underdog to Stanford than to Oregon; and Mora already knows how to play a rematch. He can scout Stanford out and see what they can do, and then get a second chance to play for real: for the Rose.
Ideally, I'm sure he'd like to win out both games, but realistically, I can see him making the call to go 2-for-1 against Stanford. And there's nothing the NCAA can do about it.
your thoughts?
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Posted on 11/17/12 at 10:58 pm to Scoob
Wow.
My gut says a coach would never lose on purpose, but shite, this is interesting.
My gut says a coach would never lose on purpose, but shite, this is interesting.
Posted on 11/17/12 at 10:58 pm to Scoob
if he's smart he goes with the second choice.
Posted on 11/17/12 at 11:00 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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My gut says a coach would never lose on purpose, but shite, this is interesting.
+1
Posted on 11/17/12 at 11:00 pm to Scoob
Posted on 11/17/12 at 11:04 pm to Scoob
Was just discussing this. I think they might rest some starters or something.
Posted on 11/17/12 at 11:06 pm to Scoob
great post. i would lose on purpose and try and study if i were him. that's against the coaching code though
Posted on 11/17/12 at 11:09 pm to Carson123987
Depends on the outcome of the Oregon-Oregon State game. If that game goes first, it comes down to if Oregon wins. If they win, I take the loss. If they lose, I go for the win. Plain and simple.
Posted on 11/17/12 at 11:12 pm to Carson123987
quote:well, there is that. But if it's close and he sees a matchup developing that he'd like another week to focus on, we might see some odd calls late. Ethical? No. Pac 12 Coach of the Year? Maybe.
great post. i would lose on purpose and try and study if i were him. that's against the coaching code though
Posted on 11/17/12 at 11:13 pm to Scoob
i just feel like there's no way he wants to play oregon
Posted on 11/17/12 at 11:16 pm to ZTiger87
If you are already in a championship game then you play to rest your starters.
Period.
You would treat it no different than how the NFL treats the end of the season once they are in and clinched home field.
Just look at it like that before you post the play to win the game.
Period.
You would treat it no different than how the NFL treats the end of the season once they are in and clinched home field.
Just look at it like that before you post the play to win the game.
Posted on 11/17/12 at 11:16 pm to Scoob
I guess it will be a one-time situation, because I'm sure there will be some sort of rule put in if it happens. But basically, yeah, UCLA can decide this is a scrimmage against Stanford. Run a few plays, see if you can beat a corner or something, then rest the starters. Stanford will have to play to win, because they're out if they lose. UCLA just needs to decide they can physically play with them (obviously), and then maybe push the score enough that Stanford empties the playbook.
Posted on 11/17/12 at 11:18 pm to TheBiggestSpur
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Depends on the outcome of the Oregon-Oregon State game. If that game goes first, it comes down to if Oregon wins. If they win, I take the loss. If they lose, I go for the win. Plain and simple.
Stanford wins the tiebreaker if all three are 7-2
Posted on 11/17/12 at 11:19 pm to SouljaBreauxTellEm
Again, it is not so much losing on purpose.. It is more not risking your players, and preparing/focusing yourself for a championship victory.
The game positions them no differently.. they are already in.. then you rest.
The game positions them no differently.. they are already in.. then you rest.
Posted on 11/17/12 at 11:21 pm to Scoob
This is one if the stupidest fricking threads Ive ever seen. There is absolutely zero chance Jim Mora for even 1 second thinks about losing next week. And if you think he might, uou are fricking retarded too.
Posted on 11/17/12 at 11:22 pm to Scoob
As for the "you play to win the game" thought-
You play for the season. You play for a national title; that's out. Then, if you're UCLA, you play for the Rose Bowl. Seriously. You don't play for the right to face Oregon in the Pac 12 Title game, you play for the right to play AT HOME IN THE GRAND-DADDY OF THEM ALL. Against, maybe, Nebraska, who you already beat.
You play for the season. You play for a national title; that's out. Then, if you're UCLA, you play for the Rose Bowl. Seriously. You don't play for the right to face Oregon in the Pac 12 Title game, you play for the right to play AT HOME IN THE GRAND-DADDY OF THEM ALL. Against, maybe, Nebraska, who you already beat.
Posted on 11/17/12 at 11:23 pm to Hot Carl
Its college football. You only play 13-14 games. They ALL count. You dont rest fricking starters. I am appalled at the retardedness of this entire proposition.
Posted on 11/17/12 at 11:25 pm to lsufan251875
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Stanford wins the tiebreaker if all three are 7-2
That's good, but I was referring to UCLA's viewpoint. If Oregon wins, then they should tank to make sure they get Stanford again. If Oregon loses and is thus removed from the Pac12 title game, then go for the win.
Posted on 11/17/12 at 11:25 pm to Hot Carl
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I am appalled at the retardedness of this entire proposition.
how is it retarded? Mora knows they won't beat Oregon.
Posted on 11/17/12 at 11:26 pm to Hot Carl
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Hot Carl
Troll elsewhere holmes.
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