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re: UAB protest almost turn violent when Watts leaves press conference

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Posted by genro
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:51 pm to
And they absolutely do. But I actually have experience/family at all three
Posted by Indfanfromcol
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:52 pm to
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I could care less about the Barrr or his kid. They mean nothing to me. I have always said UAB should focus on being the best basketball school in the region.




Maybe that is what the BoT was thinking when they wouldn't let UAB hire Jimbo back in 2006.


Do yall not think it is very odd that this all happens when UAB becomes bowl eligible?


ETA: Also, what conference will take them now that they don't have a football team?
Because they won't be in C-USA
This post was edited on 12/2/14 at 8:54 pm
Posted by Monticello
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:53 pm to
This is so true. They proposed to literally do the absolute worst thing you can do to a program and 40 people showed up to protest. 18,000 or so students and hundreds of thousands of alumni and 40-50 people cared enough to protest.
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:54 pm to
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Do yall not think it is very odd that this all happens when UAB becomes bowl eligible?
Considering the hired the consultant over a year ago, no.
Posted by Indfanfromcol
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:54 pm to
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And they absolutely do. But I actually have experience/family at all three




Their revenues say otherwise.
Posted by BowlJackson
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:55 pm to
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The best thing possible would to somehow become independent of the UA system, become "The University of Birmingham"


This I agree with.

Dropping the football program, I do not. The exposure that schools get from a D-1 football program is priceless. Very few football programs actually make money, and the money that they do spend is worth it in the long run.

UAB is about to be kicked out of CUSA over not having a football program. How is that good for the school or the other sports? UAB has done very well in basketball and baseball in CUSA.
Posted by blzr
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:56 pm to
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And they absolutely do. But I actually have experience/family at all three


I can make stuff up too.
Posted by BamaDude06
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:00 pm to
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(even though their Football team had more revenue than both Troy and South Alabama).


How do their expenses compare?
Posted by Monticello
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:00 pm to
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The exposure that schools get from a D-1 football program is priceless.


What exposure does UAB's football program bring the university besides a culture and reputation of failure? The best way for lesser known directional schools to gain national notoriety is through basketball and making the NCAA tournament on a consistent basis.
Posted by Indfanfromcol
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:01 pm to
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UAB's football program brought in $8,980,301 in revenue and reported $8,956,079 in expenses in 2013, according to federal Equity in Athletics Data.
Posted by blzr
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:01 pm to
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What exposure does UAB's football program bring the university besides a culture and reputation of failure? The best way for lesser known directional schools to gain national notoriety is through basketball and making the NCAA tournament on a consistent basis.


I guess that's why similar schools like Charlotte and UTSA started football to get into CUSA.
Posted by BamaDude06
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:06 pm to
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Dropping the football program, I do not. The exposure that schools get from a D-1 football program is priceless. Very few football programs actually make money, and the money that they do spend is worth it in the long run


What exposure? Almost all their games are on ASN, which I had never even heard of until their game against Marshall. No one was watching, no one was going. The University is better off investing that money into academics and research.

In five years I'm willing to bet UAB will not be the only school to drop FBS football. Hell, UMASS considered going back to FCS after ONE year in FBS.
Posted by Monticello
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:07 pm to
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UAB is about to be kicked out of CUSA over not having a football program. How is that good for the school or the other sports?


CUSA is a shell of its former self. It is basically the Sun Belt. It has zero schools with any basketball legitimacy remaining. The glory days of being in the same conference as Memphis, Cincinnati, Louisville, Houston, and Marquette are over. Losing CUSA affiliation and moving to a basketball centered conference would not be as big of a deal as you think.
Posted by Indfanfromcol
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:07 pm to
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How do their expenses compare?




My comment is to the poster who said Troy and USA have much more support than UAB.
I used revenues as an example against it. Expenses don't really add anything to that argument.
Posted by blzr
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:07 pm to
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Losing CUSA affiliation and moving to a basketball centered conference would not be as big of a deal as you think.



And where do you think they're going?
Posted by blzr
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:08 pm to
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My comment is to the poster who said Troy and USA have much more support than UAB.
I used revenues as an example against it. Expenses don't really add anything to that argument.


He was proved wrong last night too. hell USA had 10,000 people at a game to get bowl eligible. and UAB had 30,000 vs Marshall.
Posted by Monticello
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:10 pm to
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In five years I'm willing to bet UAB will not be the only school to drop FBS football. Hell, UMASS considered going back to FCS after ONE year in FBS.



Hawaii is already talking about dropping football after the Obannon ruling. The funding problem is only going to get worse for these small schools trying to play in the same ballpark as the Big 5.
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Posted by Indfanfromcol
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:11 pm to
It really is silly to think that not having a Divisions 1 football team isn't good for a school.

To think, had the BoT allowed UAB to hire Jimbo, it probably would have led to better recruiting, and better coaches wanting to be a part of the program after he left, letting their football program be much better.
The BoT has done everything in their power to make sure that UAB football program never became successful.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:17 pm to
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What exposure does UAB's football program bring the university besides a culture and reputation of failure?


Ummm... it still gets the name of the school out there. How often is UAB going to be on TV without football? I watched two UAB C-USA games on local TV in Indianapolis this year. That's reaching a lot of people that would have never thought about UAB otherwise.
Posted by Indfanfromcol
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:28 pm to
So what is all this I am hearing about that not only did the BoT not allow UAB to hire Jimbo and would not allow them to have an on campus stadium which would help their attendance, but they also wouldn't allow UAB to accept numerous donations to the athletic program????
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