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Posted on 1/12/15 at 12:18 pm to goldenbadger08
Posted on 1/12/15 at 12:18 pm to goldenbadger08
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So complain all you want about the rule but you are you and he's the National Football League's Head of Officiating.
such brilliant insight
thanks for adding literally nothing to the conversation
This post was edited on 1/12/15 at 12:18 pm
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 12:22 pm to goldenbadger08
I don't get why people are so surprised that the NFL is going to stand behind its officials on potentially the most controversial review play in NFL history. 
What, they're gonna say, "they got to review it, and they STILL got it wrong." ???
That would open up a can of worms on the entire process of review in general. They weren't going to do that.
They have NEVER said that the wrong call was made after a review. They aren't going to start now.
ETA: Ryen Russillo just said on radio that no one knows the rules, because they're all so vague and conflicting.
He said even the officials in the booth don't know.
SVP is crushing the official now
What, they're gonna say, "they got to review it, and they STILL got it wrong." ???
That would open up a can of worms on the entire process of review in general. They weren't going to do that.
They have NEVER said that the wrong call was made after a review. They aren't going to start now.
ETA: Ryen Russillo just said on radio that no one knows the rules, because they're all so vague and conflicting.
He said even the officials in the booth don't know.
SVP is crushing the official now
This post was edited on 1/12/15 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 1/12/15 at 12:25 pm to BayouBengals03
He just posted that there would be no way of knowing if it was a football move or not because you'd have to read Dez's mind...then literally the next post said the Ref had 100% indisputable proof (so I guess the Ref can read Dez's mind?)
But oh well, don't bother questioning it or debating it, because "you are you" and "he is he"
But oh well, don't bother questioning it or debating it, because "you are you" and "he is he"
This post was edited on 1/12/15 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 1/12/15 at 12:27 pm to BayouBengals03
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on potentially the most controversial review play in NFL history.
Holy shite dude..
Fine give Cowboys a td there and give Rodgers 4 minutes to score another touchdown on that swiss cheese defense.
You're acting like it literally took a win away from you.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 12:28 pm to goldenbadger08
"What Dez Bryant did is he was trying to score. He was desperately trying to score." - SVP
So I guess other informed people share our opinion?
So I guess other informed people share our opinion?
Posted on 1/12/15 at 12:28 pm to Eighteen
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Yes or No: do you think that was a catch?
Watching live I thought it was, but when they showed the first replay I didn't think it was. When it was challenged, I thought it could get overturned but wasn't sure if they would (depending on what they called "indisputable").
I do think it was the right call. You can hate the rule, but that was the correct call based on the rule. And I don't even think it's a horrible rule; it just seems like it in cases like these.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 12:29 pm to goldenbadger08
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Holy shite dude..
Fine give Cowboys a td there and give Rodgers 4 minutes to score another touchdown on that swiss cheese defense.
You're acting like it literally took a win away from you.
Ah, so now you're backing away from all of your arguments and just throwing other shite at the wall.
I'm a Saints fan. I think Green Bay still could've easily won the game even if it was ruled a catch. I hate Dallas and they played like shite yesterday and deserved to lose after missing so many chances.
None of that matter. What does matter is the rule is terrible and needs to be tweaked to make more sense. It's too vague and lacks complete common sense.
There's no reason Dez moved the ball from both hands to one than any other reason than to try and score. Why on earth would he need to move it to one hand to try to secure the catch? Why would he make it harder on himself on purpose?
But in the end it's on him for not knowing the rule and he shouldv'e just held onto it and fallen down.
But it's terrible that a player shouldn't try and make a more athletic play with the ball or risk getting punished for it.
This post was edited on 1/12/15 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 1/12/15 at 12:30 pm to goldenbadger08
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Fine give Cowboys a td there and give Rodgers 4 minutes to score another touchdown on that swiss cheese defense. You're acting like it literally took a win away from you.
lol
This is what I said earlier in this very thread, comparing this call to last week's call in Dallas...
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Neither team lost the game because of one call, though. Detroit had their chances to win afterwards, and Dallas had their chances yesterday.
Botching the end of the 1st half, the Murray fumble, not getting off the field on 3rd and long countless times...
Make no mistake, Dallas lost the game on many other plays. And the way Green Bay was moving the ball, I would have expected them to go down and score even if the Cowboys scored on their last drive.
This is about that single call being overturned, for me. I'm not arguing that the Cowboys would have won the game or if they deserved to win the game. They screwed themselves for even needing a late drive for the win against that Green Bay team yesterday; with Rodgers being hurt.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 12:32 pm to goldenbadger08
Also, name a play in NFL replay history in a playoff game that is more controversial than this one.
I'll wait.
I'll wait.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 12:45 pm to BayouBengals03
Blandino said Bryant lunging forward toward the goal line is not the kind of overt act a player needs to make in order to be seen as making a “football move.”
“There’s judgment involved in all of these plays,” Blandino said. “We felt it was indisputable that’s not what Bryant did. He was just trying to gain control of it.”
I call bullshite
“There’s judgment involved in all of these plays,” Blandino said. “We felt it was indisputable that’s not what Bryant did. He was just trying to gain control of it.”
I call bullshite
Posted on 1/12/15 at 12:48 pm to tigerskin
That statement is such horseshite.
The fact they can make that judgement is just silly.
ETA: And this statement basically rules out all the people arguing that "you have to maintain control all the way to the ground."
This guy just admitted that it they thought he made a football move it would have been a catch.
The fact they can make that judgement is just silly.
ETA: And this statement basically rules out all the people arguing that "you have to maintain control all the way to the ground."
This guy just admitted that it they thought he made a football move it would have been a catch.
This post was edited on 1/12/15 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 1/12/15 at 12:48 pm to BayouBengals03
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Also, name a play in NFL replay history in a playoff game that is more controversial than this one. I'll wait.
Tuck rule was much more controversial. This time it just happened to Dallas so you have all the Dallas band wagoners arguing with the Dallas haters
Posted on 1/12/15 at 12:48 pm to BayouBengals03
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Also, name a play in NFL replay history in a playoff game that is more controversial than this one.
I'll wait
Tuck Rule?
And you could argue the way history played out from that point forward it's the biggest on the field call in NFL history
This post was edited on 1/12/15 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 1/12/15 at 12:53 pm to Bigpoppat
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Yes
Posted on 1/12/15 at 12:56 pm to LL012697
Tuck rule is the most comparable.
However, the tuck rule is a clearly stated rule. There was gray area in the play, but not in the rule book.
This play yesterday has two conflicting arguments you can use from the rule book.
However, the tuck rule is a clearly stated rule. There was gray area in the play, but not in the rule book.
This play yesterday has two conflicting arguments you can use from the rule book.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 12:58 pm to BayouBengals03
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This guy just admitted that it they thought he made a football move it would have been a catch.
right
I think everyone agrees that if Bryant was laid out, full extension, it would have been called complete
but him moving his shoulder forward could have been anything
and I would still like to know if the side judge saw the ball come loose because that would change the ruling a lot
Posted on 1/12/15 at 1:02 pm to tigerskin
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“There’s judgment involved in all of these plays,” Blandino said. “We felt it was indisputable that’s not what Bryant did. He was just trying to gain control of it.”
Again, this quote shows that if they thought Dez reached for the goal line and made a football move, it would have been a catch.
Yet, they say it was indisputable that he wasn't doing that.
You know, despite the fact that everyone is arguing today whether or not that is what he was trying to do.
"What Dez Bryant did is he was trying to score. He was desperately trying to score." - Scott Van Pelt
Indisputable, alright.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 1:03 pm to Salmon
I've already stated that I believe it was a catch, but my other issue is with the "ball coming loose" argument. I'm aware that the ball was juggled when he hit the ground, but I've yet to see a still fram of the ball touching the ground.
If my memory serves me right, Dez rolled into the endzone and secured the ball in bounds after he juggled it when he landed. Football move or not, catch or not, unless the replay official had an angle that clearly showed the ball hitting the ground, I'm not sure how they could overturn the call. You cannot assume that the ball hit the ground if you cannot see it happen.
If my memory serves me right, Dez rolled into the endzone and secured the ball in bounds after he juggled it when he landed. Football move or not, catch or not, unless the replay official had an angle that clearly showed the ball hitting the ground, I'm not sure how they could overturn the call. You cannot assume that the ball hit the ground if you cannot see it happen.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 1:05 pm to slackster
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