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Tigre85
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re: The Oakland Raiders will win the AFC West.
Raider fan here , I'll believe it when I see it .


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KCM0Tiger
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re: The Oakland Raiders will win the AFC West.
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Not to mention with the Chiefs playing poorly under Mahomes, and the Raiders easy schedule


Combined opponent record of every AFC playoff team:

Chiefs: 45-32-1 (.578)
Texans: 41-37 (.523)
Colts: 33-38 (.465)
Ravens: 31-36-1 (.456)
Patriots: 24-50 (.324)
Bills: 22-47 (.319)

So the Chiefs have:
--Played one of the toughest schedules
--Mahomes has played on a gimp ankle since Week 1
--Mahomes has missed 2.5 games

Yet the Chiefs are 6-3 and have the upcoming schedule:

Titans (4-5)
Chargers (4-6)
Raiders (5-4) (Chiefs hold head-to-head)
Patriots (8-1)
Broncos (3-6)
Bears (3-5)
Chargers (4-6)

With Mahomes back and healthy, and the meat of our schedule behind us, I see no way Oakland wins the AFC West



UltimateHog
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re: The Oakland Raiders will win the AFC West.
Chiefs SOS ranks 7th, Raiders 3rd. Raiders also played 6 straight road games over 45 days.
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KCM0Tiger
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re: The Oakland Raiders will win the AFC West.
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Chiefs SOS ranks 7th, Raiders 3rd. Raiders also played 6 straight road games over 45 days.



The Chiefs lead the Raiders by a game and have already beaten them H2H. They also just got their MVP QB back and their starting LT will be back after the bye-week. They're only getting better.


Chalkywhite84
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re: The Oakland Raiders will win the AFC West.
Don't know if they win the west but gruden has them looking like a good team.

Wait till they get a couple receivers and a few pieces on defense.

John gruden can coach
I never got all the hate for him


UltimateHog
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re: The Oakland Raiders will win the AFC West.
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They're only getting better.



Same.

Carr is 10th PFF Mahomes 13th.
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KCM0Tiger
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re: The Oakland Raiders will win the AFC West.
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Carr is 10th PFF Mahomes 13th.



Derek Carr himself admits that the Chiefs own him/y'all.

Good luck


UltimateHog
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re: The Oakland Raiders will win the AFC West.


That's all they said about Rivers in Oakland last night too. News flash, past is irrelevant.


KCM0Tiger
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re: The Oakland Raiders will win the AFC West.
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News flash, past is irrelevant.


Fair enough. Best of luck to y'all in the wildcard chase


St Augustine
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John gruden can coach I never got all the hate for him


There was a ton of bashing of him and mayock from the neck beard twitter types. I’m glad he’s doing well. That definitely wasn’t an easy organization to turn around.


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UltimateHog
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re: The Oakland Raiders will win the AFC West.
You too.


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Mad Dawg 2020
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re: The Oakland Raiders will win the AFC West.
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Carr is 10th PFF Mahomes 13th.




This is why PFF is not a good supplement for actually watching football games


LB84
Member since May 2016
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re: The Oakland Raiders will win the AFC West.
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There was a ton of bashing of him and mayock from the neck beard twitter types. I’m glad he’s doing well. That definitely wasn’t an easy organization to turn around.


It wasn't that big of a turnaround for Gruden. He inherited a team 2017 6-10, 2016 12-4, and 2015 7-9. Jack Del Rio had that team for 3 years and went 25-23. Not awful compared to 2003-2014 being absolutely putrid besides 2 8-8 seasons.


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UltimateHog
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re: The Oakland Raiders will win the AFC West.
Yeah, Mahomes was I think 6th or 7th before those 2 bad games he lost vs Colts and Texans pre-injury and those dropped him decently, Lions game really hurt his grade too.
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dukke v
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re: The Oakland Raiders will win the AFC West.
Well they should be 7-4 after the next two weeks, so we will see what happens after that. Maybe a wild card.


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88Wildcat
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re: The Oakland Raiders will win the AFC West.
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Carr is 10th PFF Mahomes 13th.


Remaining Chiefs-Raiders game is at Arrowhead. Derek Carr's career record at Arrowhead 0-5. Derek Carr's career record facing Mahomes anywhere 0-3.


UltimateHog
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re: The Oakland Raiders will win the AFC West.
Philip Rivers had won 6 straight in Oakland until last night too. Those things mean nothing.


SDtiger16
Missouri Fan
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re: The Oakland Raiders will win the AFC West.
The Raiders won’t win the division once during the Mahomes tenure. Bookmark this.


Ancient Astronaut
Ole Miss Fan
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re: The Oakland Raiders will win the AFC West.
I will. MEhomes better player better. He looked like Trubisky in his last 2 home games.


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EarlyCuyler3
Alabama Fan
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Member since Nov 2017
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re: The Oakland Raiders will win the AFC West.
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John gruden can coach
I never got all the hate for him




I wasn't a fan. I was in the beginning but the Bucs got worse and worse the longer he was there. It definitely appeared that the game had evolved past him. Good for him to come back and prove us wrong though. So far anyway. I figured it was going to be a pretty bad hire.


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