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re: The ATL Thread: Spring Training Edition
Posted on 2/20/12 at 1:03 pm to The White Lobster
Posted on 2/20/12 at 1:03 pm to The White Lobster
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I'm surprised Sheehan went against the metrics.
He was pretty reliant on the numbers throughout, but his suggestion was basically that he thinks the advanced numbers will balance out.
Posted on 2/20/12 at 1:04 pm to okietiger
Even though it wasn't a bigger game than his frick up in the playoffs, I will always remember him for his grand slam against the Reds.
Posted on 2/20/12 at 1:11 pm to SwampDonks
Without that GS vs. the Reds, or the one he hit in Miami, the Braves would not have even been in the playoffs. They only won the WC by a game or two, IIRC.
Posted on 2/20/12 at 1:25 pm to OBUDan
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He was pretty reliant on the numbers throughout, but his suggestion was basically that he thinks the advanced numbers will balance out.
Not to mention 1B really don't get a ton of chances in one season compared to other positions, so you really have small sample size problems with Freeman's numbers anyway. It will probably take a couple seasons to normalize his numbers, and he does struggle going left. The stuff he does best doesn't show up in the defensive metrics anyway, which makes judging 1B defense about like judging catcher defense in some ways.
Posted on 2/20/12 at 2:37 pm to auyushu
He mentioned that picking balls out of the dirt and stuff is calculated into DRS, which I didn't know.
Freddie's DRS was 0 last year, though.
Freddie's DRS was 0 last year, though.
Posted on 2/20/12 at 2:49 pm to OBUDan
Hudson is hurt, Hanson swerves his car and hurts his head, Chipper looks like this:
:gobraves:
:gobraves:
Posted on 2/20/12 at 2:52 pm to hiltacular
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Hanson blew a tire because Chipper thought the tire was a doughnut and took a bite out of it
From the comments section of DOBs blog.

Posted on 2/20/12 at 2:54 pm to OBUDan
J Hey lost 20 pounds.
I think we may have found them.
I think we may have found them.
Posted on 2/20/12 at 2:55 pm to hiltacular
Well, Chipper hasn't ever worked out in the offseason.
Posted on 2/20/12 at 2:57 pm to OBUDan
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He mentioned that picking balls out of the dirt and stuff is calculated into DRS, which I didn't know.
Freddie's DRS was 0 last year, though.
Huh, I'd always heard that Fangraphs fielding rankings for WAR didn't include that, nor did their DRS. Maybe I'm just off. But if it is included he should have much better numbers than he does, cause he's one of the best in baseball at picking balls.
Posted on 2/20/12 at 3:01 pm to auyushu
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cause he's one of the best in baseball at picking balls.
Tee hee.
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Huh, I'd always heard that Fangraphs fielding rankings for WAR didn't include that, nor did their DRS
This is all I could find in a quick search: LINK
Even still, being at 0 means he's at "league average" and I think you are right about taking some time for his UZR numbers to normalize.
Posted on 2/20/12 at 3:18 pm to OBUDan
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Tee hee.

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Even still, being at 0 means he's at "league average" and I think you are right about taking some time for his UZR numbers to normalize.
Yeah, for last years stats he'd be ranked the worst in baseball for UZR. And there is no way in hell he's worse than Ryan Howard, Prince Fielder, or Miggy at 1B.
As far as the picking balls and DRS goes, I didn't really see a spot where they would go in on their list, I don't think they count as 1B chances in the usual sense. The only thing they seem to be using for the DRS ranking for 1B is the:
rPM – Plus Minus Runs Saved evaluates the fielder’s range and ability to convert a batted ball to an out.
And fielding throws wouldn't count for that.
Posted on 2/20/12 at 3:20 pm to hiltacular
No way Chip plays 80 games at 3B this year.
Chipper to 1B, Freddie to LF, Prads to 3B! champ!!
(totally joking)
Chipper to 1B, Freddie to LF, Prads to 3B! champ!!
(totally joking)
Posted on 2/20/12 at 3:23 pm to BallHawk
If we would have signed PRince to play SS, all of our problems would have been solved.
Posted on 2/20/12 at 11:12 pm to BallHawk
You guys are soooooooo silly
Posted on 2/21/12 at 2:03 am to SwampDonks
Chipper looks like an older version of what I picture 31 looking like IRL.
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