re: The ATL Thread: Offseason Edition

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I really think Seth Smith is going to be the guy we wind up with.

We'll get the Rocks to chip in a young CF prospect, and maybe we'll throw them an arm or something.

I'm OK with it.

Smith is a better hitter than Prado (though it should be noted in a heavy platoon split). Prado is a better fielder and more versatile, though.

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I just don't see the benefit of trading Prado for Smith. It'd be worse than the D'backs replacing Parra with Kubel.

I'm always skeptical of a player with extreme R/L splits. Smith is awful against Lefties. There's no way I'd rather have Diaz in the lineup over Prado, and Smith really isn't all that much better against Righties than Prado.

The fact that Martin can step in and play a great 3B is so damn valuable to us.

Look at the first 2 months last year before he got hurt. He was hitting just like he had the previous two years. I think Prado is a better hitter than Smith too.


I think Frank has to be bullshitting about trading Prado, and he really just wants to trade JJ. That's my hope anyways because the more I look at it the more I want Martin to stay.

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Getting the CF will be the key to the deal. Kind of like the same thing with the Javy Vazquez trade. People thought it was centered around Melky when it was all about Viz.

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No doubt that would be key. Moving Prado this year would create such a huge hole for us this year, it would have to be a prospect with some heavy upside.

Who is the CF that we'd want from them?

I highly doubt the Rockies would ever deal him, but we need to get their boy Nolan Arenado! I don't know anything about him except what I've read, but I'm hoping that Wren is putting it in their ear that we will trade Prado and also JJ (and a prospect probably) if we they'll package Nolan Arenado with Smith.

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I highly doubt the Rockies would ever deal him, but we need to get their boy Nolan Arenado!

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One could only dream

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I'm worried they think the team is "good enough" as currently comprised.

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We don't really need a lot. I can kind of see why the FO would think that way. If Heyward gets back to his rookie year production, and we get a ~20-25 HR bat in LF, the only thing holding us back will be Fredi. Unfortunately, Fredi holds us back kind of like how a 12 ton anchor keeps an aircraft carrier from floating away.

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Tim Wheeler. 30 HR/20 SB this past year, and knows how to take some walks. Does strikeout a bunch, though.

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Oh damn. I missed him somehow. That's a hell of a power jump.

I'm really interested in seeing him this year at AAA and if he can sustain that kind of power. He's a very intriguing prospect, even with all the strikeouts.

Kind of reminds me of a Drew Stubbs with more power. Whether that is a good thing depends on who you ask.

There's no chance he has a year like last year IMO. If he can just get back to his .800 OPS, which he had in the 3 years before last year, then that would have been good for 5th in the NL last year for LF. Although, he would have been behind Seth Smith

He's a "professional" hitter.

How your Giants looking for this upcoming year right now? Expecting any moves?

moves have already been made. they're focusing mostly on locking up Lincecum and Cain. not really any money left.

I'm fairly optimistic considering we seem to have upgraded our offense. There's absolutely no way they can be any worse than last year. They scored fewer runs than anyone in baseball in 2011 besides the Mariners (only by 14 runs).

Plus the pitching staff should be solid again. Losing Sanchez is a bit scary. Not because he was so great (fricker never threw strikes) but because our 5th starter is Zito with inexperienced Eric Surkamp as the fall-back guy. We could really use Zach Wheeler in the system right now.

I expect the starting roster to be:

C - Posey
1B - Huff/Pill
2B - Sanchez
3B - Panda
SS - Crawford
LF - Belt
CF - Pagan
RF - Melky

Lincecum
Cain
Bumgarner
Vogelsong
Zito

Wilson
Romo
Lopez
Affeldt
Runzler
Mota

D-Backs and Rockies are going to be tough. Padres and Dodgers will have a lolz season.

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RF - Melky

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The Melk-Man