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re: The ATL Thread 5/1: Braves @ Marlins; April in review

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Posted by The White Lobster
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 11:05 pm to
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Posted by cheesesteak501
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 11:05 pm to
I never said anything about Stanton and MVP votes. You're putting words in my mouth. All I said was MVP voting doesn't really take defense into account anywhere near as offense. You are the only one in this entire message board who would take Heyward.
Posted by The White Lobster
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 11:06 pm to
no he isn't
Posted by Patron Saint
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 11:11 pm to
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I never said anything about Stanton and MVP votes.


I said Heyward is much better at defense than Stanton, and you said that defense doesn't win MVP votes, thereby heavily implying that MVP votes are a measurement of a player's worth.
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 11:11 pm to
I like Heyward a lot don't get me wrong, I think he's a great player. I just think Stanton is better
Posted by Patron Saint
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 11:13 pm to
quote:

I just think Stanton is better


I think that's a reasonable opinion. I'm just saying no one can definitively say that one is better than the other.
Posted by The White Lobster
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 11:13 pm to
I was laughing at your reasoning. sound logic. I also watch baseball
Posted by cheesesteak501
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 11:14 pm to
Your idea of a better player is different than mine, and most others. I know you don't care but for the hell of it I just googled best right fielders in baseball and literally every site I went on had Stanton number 1.
Posted by The White Lobster
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 11:14 pm to
bautista? braun?
This post was edited on 5/1/14 at 11:15 pm
Posted by Tiger1242
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 11:15 pm to
Posted by Patron Saint
Member since Jul 2013
4213 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 11:16 pm to
quote:

Your idea of a better player is different than mine, and most others. I know you don't care but for the hell of it I just googled best right fielders in baseball and literally every site I went on had Stanton number 1.



99% of this argument has been about using poor reasoning.

If cheesesteak had just said that he thinks Stanton is better, I wouldn't have a problem with that. When someone uses RBI and batting average, I have to argue with that.
This post was edited on 5/1/14 at 11:19 pm
Posted by cheesesteak501
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 11:18 pm to
my original argument was average hr and rbi, which stanton is better at.
Posted by cheesesteak501
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Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 11:19 pm to
quote:

bautista? braun?


Braun is left fielder. and look at Bautista career stats. he had 2 good seasons.

Joey Bats had 2 seasons in his career of over 30 hrs and he hits 220 every year.
This post was edited on 5/1/14 at 11:21 pm
Posted by Patron Saint
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 11:19 pm to
quote:

my original argument was average hr and rbi, which stanton is better at.



Amazing that you typed that while I was typing the the second part of my previous post. I know you didn't actually see it before posting.
Posted by The White Lobster
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 11:21 pm to
braun is a right fielder now.

bautista is in his fifth year of being one of the best hitters in the game. he's like a more patient stanton offensively
Posted by cheesesteak501
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Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 11:21 pm to
I dont even know what that means.
Posted by Patron Saint
Member since Jul 2013
4213 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 11:23 pm to
I was in the middle of typing that I have to argue when someone uses BA and RBI to evaluate a player, and at the same time you were typing that your original argument was that Stanton has more RBI and a higher BA.
Posted by cheesesteak501
The South
Member since Mar 2014
3152 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 11:24 pm to
at 33 and only have 2 seasons of more than 30 hrs... I'm not trying to say Stanton is godly, I'm just saying he is better than Heyward. Which most of the offensive categories people look at he owns Heyward. I'm not trying to get into it with other players.
Posted by Patron Saint
Member since Jul 2013
4213 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 11:25 pm to
quote:

Which most of the offensive categories people look at he owns Heyward. I'm not trying to get into it with other players.


And most of the defensive categories show that Heyward owns Stanton.
Posted by cheesesteak501
The South
Member since Mar 2014
3152 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 11:30 pm to
The Marlins will win a world series before Heyward wins a gold glove.

*another
This post was edited on 5/1/14 at 11:32 pm
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