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re: The ATL Thread 5/1: Braves @ Marlins; April in review
Posted on 5/1/14 at 9:56 pm to cheesesteak501
Posted on 5/1/14 at 9:56 pm to cheesesteak501
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No
ok well it discredits your argument
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 9:58 pm to Patron Saint
Not really.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:01 pm to cheesesteak501
Tell me how RBI is a good measure of a player's worth.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:01 pm to Patron Saint
He produces runs?
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:04 pm to cheesesteak501
He produces runs, or guys in front of him get on base? In 2008, Hanley Ramirez hit .301/.400/.540 with 33 HR and had 67 RBI. Does that mean he sucked, or does it mean his team sucked at getting on base in front of him?
This post was edited on 5/1/14 at 10:05 pm
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:04 pm to cheesesteak501
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Wow, 4 games back out of first. It's the first month.
4 x 6 is 24. Just saying.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:05 pm to Patron Saint
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Tell me how RBI is a good measure of a player's worth.
depends on what type of player you're looking at.
you shouldn't expect your lead off guy to have 90 RBI, but if you're looking at someone to put in the 3 or 4 hole, then yes, RBI is a very valuable tool to look at, along with slugging %, average with RISP, etc.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:07 pm to Patron Saint
that's why you look at stats together, not one singular stat by itself. 33 HRs with .540 slugging proves the low RBI total is a fluke.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:07 pm to TH03
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if you're looking at someone to put in the 3 or 4 hole, then yes, RBI is a very valuable tool to look at, along with slugging %, average with RISP, etc.
That's still not true if the guys batting 1-3 suck. Also RISP usually uses a small sample size and isn't reliable, and it's been shown that being clutch isn't really a thing over a long time period.
ETA: By thing, I mean a predictable and appreciable skill.
This post was edited on 5/1/14 at 10:10 pm
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:09 pm to TH03
If I'm looking for a guy who I might sign to a long term extension for big money, I'm not going to base on a stat that is highly reliant on the play of people who bat in front of him.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:09 pm to cheesesteak501
you aren't gonna win any arguments using RsBI
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:09 pm to Patron Saint
RBI are in the big 3 of baseball stats. You must be the only one who thinks RBI don't mean anything.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:10 pm to Patron Saint
who do you draft first stanton or heyward?
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:11 pm to cheesesteak501
I bet you like pitcher wins too.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:12 pm to cheesesteak501
RBIs don't mean much because you are dependent upon others being on base,
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:12 pm to TH03
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hole
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RBI is a very valuable tool to look at
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average with RISP
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TH03
:casty: :casty: :casty:
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:15 pm to cheesesteak501
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RBI are in the big 3 of baseball stats
Hell of an argument there.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:15 pm to The White Lobster
I SAID TOGETHER
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:17 pm to Patron Saint
The "big 3 of baseball stats" also completely ignore defense, which I believe is half of the game.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:18 pm to Patron Saint
Well in the MVP consideration, defense isn't really a big deal at all.
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